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alp227

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Sun Dec 11, 2011, 09:31 PM Dec 2011

Santa Clara County sheriff draws legal fire for way she hands out concealed-gun permits [View all]

Tracy Seipel, San Jose Mercury News

When Tom Scocca applied to Santa Clara County Sheriff Laurie Smith three years ago for a permit to carry a concealed firearm, he thought he had all the right stuff.

Not only was he a former police officer and sheriff's deputy working as a security manager at a major Silicon Valley tech company, he owned an investigative firm and was already licensed to openly carry a loaded gun.

But the sheriff turned him down.

Now that denial is the basis of a federal lawsuit in which Scocca alleges that Smith issues concealed-weapons permits in an arbitrary and capricious way.

He may have a shot. A review by this newspaper of the list of people with such permits indicates that some who appear to have less reason than Scocca to carry a concealed weapon have had no problem getting a permit from Smith.

And although state law requires that permit holders must be "a resident of the county or a city" where the permits are issued -- or at least spend a substantial amount of time in a principal place of employment or business in that city or county -- the Sheriff's Office refused to explain how Smith defines who is a "resident."

In fact, some of those who currently hold permits don't appear to fit the ordinary definition of that word, including the scion of the Eggo frozen-waffle fortune who lives in Russia and the 86-year-old patriarch of Bechtel, the international engineering and construction firm. He lives in San Francisco.

full: http://www.mercurynews.com/rss/ci_19521214

also "A who's who of permit holders in Santa Clara County": http://www.mercurynews.com/bay-area-news/ci_19521383?source=pkg

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What is the point? Remmah2 Dec 2011 #1
Fortunately, the courts, law enforcement and just about every Constitutional scholar disagrees. Hoyt Dec 2011 #3
name one gejohnston Dec 2011 #4
The poster I responded to said that government should not have any say in what folks do with guns. Hoyt Dec 2011 #6
That's not at all what he said. PavePusher Dec 2011 #8
I suggest you start with reading the excellent materials at this link. We'll go from there. Hoyt Dec 2011 #9
"Militia" was never defined in the constitution. Remmah2 Dec 2011 #14
are you serious? gejohnston Dec 2011 #15
Hahahahaha, hahahah, hahahahaha! PavePusher Dec 2011 #20
That ole clause... Straw Man Dec 2011 #23
Whose site is that? one-eyed fat man Dec 2011 #24
Let's hope you don't shoot someone based on your erroneous suspicions. Don't have a gun site. Hoyt Dec 2011 #25
I like that arguement one-eyed fat man Dec 2011 #26
Why, her standards for issue make sense: Rich and old. I'm covered on the latter. nt SteveW Dec 2011 #27
And yet you still can not show us your First, Fourth, Thirteenth and Ninteenth Amendment Permits. PavePusher Dec 2011 #7
Ask the Supreme Court. Hoyt Dec 2011 #10
Face it. Remmah2 Dec 2011 #13
This stuff Old Codger Dec 2011 #2
National reciprocity will cure this problem. GreenStormCloud Dec 2011 #5
Well, not Utah any more Euromutt Dec 2011 #21
Let's hope he wins this one....it could be win for all of California. ileus Dec 2011 #11
Reporting fail? PavePusher Dec 2011 #12
For PIs and security guards, it seems there is an 'exposed carry' permit issued by petronius Dec 2011 #16
Larn sumpin' new ever day. Thanks! n/t PavePusher Dec 2011 #18
Here are the details for a security guard firearm permit hack89 Dec 2011 #17
Thanks! n/t PavePusher Dec 2011 #19
I thought Old Codger Dec 2011 #22
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