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In reply to the discussion: Why Gun Control advocates will end up with egg on their face once again... [View all]iverglas
(38,549 posts)132. c'mon back down to earth now
I really didn't mean to confuse you with that moon talk.
Here's the statement I replied to:
Gun ownership up while murders are down
Gun ownership. Not number of guns sold. So lets stick to our muttons, 'k?
Records- prohibited by law. Would records stop straw man purchases? Not with the current DOJ
Well, the registry in Canada sure seems to but a damper on straw sales. We just don't hear of many at all. There was that time some bunch of people tried to buy up a lot of M1 Garands for export to the US disguised as car parts - importation into the US is illegal - and the firearms registry flagged the unusual purchase pattern around the country and the would-be smugglers were caught. (I don't care what the reasons are for the US import ban; the fact is that the Cdn registry identified a trafficking attempt.)
Individual straw sales? What fool with a clean record and a licence would buy a gun for their buddy the criminal, knowing that if buddy is caught with it, it can be traced straight to Mr./Ms. law-abiding gun owner with the tap of a few keys? The odd fool, no doubt. But we just don't hear of any. Crime guns that are traced are found to be overwhelmingly stolen in Canada or trafficked in from the US, in roughly equal proportions.
Ooooh, and that "current DOJ" stuff. That is such a fine hobbyhorse, that one, isn't it?
Retail sales=number of buyers? No But then there seems to be either a few very wealthy collectors or the NCIS has a virus
Actually, I'd suggest there is likely a noticeable block of people who already own firearms buying more. I don't go for silly false dichotomies, myself.
Machine guns at Wal mart?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=22017
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=22017
Damn those private videos. Now I'll never know what that guy said. Does he post at DU? Or did you think slackmaster was adopting his comments?
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Why Gun Control advocates will end up with egg on their face once again... [View all]
virginia mountainman
Mar 2012
OP
The real issue is easy availability of guns and ammo and the attitude that guns are ok.
bowens43
Mar 2012
#1
No valid reason. So I guess you're ok with bad guys killing innocent victims
shadowrider
Mar 2012
#3
I think it is ridiculous to think that only agents of the state can save me from harm.
Atypical Liberal
Mar 2012
#4
"there is no valid reason to allow anyone outside of law enforcement to possess hand guns"
Upton
Mar 2012
#7
So if it is not guns per se but a particular demographic with guns that is the problem
hack89
Mar 2012
#23
Yea, because the gun obsessed keep buying more and more hoping to satiate some strange needs.
Hoyt
Mar 2012
#81
No it won't. Americans know enough to look beyond the emotions at the hard fact.
hack89
Mar 2012
#10
The University of Chicago, the VPC, and NORC all recieve funding from the Joyce Foundation.
Dr_Scholl
Mar 2012
#109
Why? We don't tolerate air polluters, smokers are banned in a lot of places -- why not guns?
Hoyt
Mar 2012
#84
Nah, NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. ALL gun owners are responsible people who never get MAD, and NEVER snap.
shadowrider
Mar 2012
#31
Disney is free to ban guns on its' property. As for school personnel carrying...
friendly_iconoclast
Mar 2012
#66
I don't know of any concealed carry licenses that allow carry in amusement parks
rl6214
Mar 2012
#121
Another "you can buy guns at Wal-Mart without ID" statement, it would seem.
friendly_iconoclast
Mar 2012
#55
I suspect a few antis would rather Martin's family go without justice...
friendly_iconoclast
Mar 2012
#87
Build one yourself, they are inexpensive, easy to build and a lot of fun to build
rl6214
Mar 2012
#122