Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: Lawmaker wants military patrols after child's murder [View all]beevul
(12,194 posts)"Both the text and the historical context pretty clearly point to the militia interpretation: the purpose of 2A was to prevent the federal government from disarming militias. This is a fact that is even agreed upon by people like Scalia, who, like you, read 2A more broadly, essentially arguing that the militia clause should be ignored, along with the intent of the framers."
No sir.
Written in modern language, it would read:
Because a well regulated militia is necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
Now, its very clear that while you may read such a sentence as "contextually militia limited", it is not, nor did the framers intend it to be. "Who are the militia? The whole body of people..." Just because the great majority of people do not ascribe to the declaratory clause, the meaning which YOU ascribe to it, does not mean the great majority "ignore it".
But you knew that.
"I understand that your dislike of gun control laws makes you favor the Scalia interpretation, but you should at least understand that, historically, 2A has nothing to do with limiting the ability of the government to regulate civilian gun ownership for the sake of public safety."
Too cute by half. Historically, "public safety" wasn't wielded as quite the same club, by the same blindfolded idiots, swinging at the pinata of civil liberties, as it has been in the last two decades. Jim crow not historically withstanding (do go ahead and use jim crow as an example, wont you?). So lets don't pretend that it has always been the case, mkay? My "dislike" of gun control laws? Facts not in evidence, I'd say. The "scalia" interpretation? I've held the same view on it, for years. As in far before Heller was granted cert, or even appealed to the supreme court. Beyond that, sparky, Polling indicates that the great majority of americans agree with ME, and also agree with the "scalia" interpretation. As does president Obama. Is he wrong too? Everyone is wrong...Obama is wrong, scalia is wrong, the majority of americans are wrong...but youre somehow right?
No sir. Youre fighting a war you already lost. You just haven't come to accept it as such.
It - the second amendment - is SETTLED LAW, as Kagan AND Satomayor both said during their confirmation hearings, or were they lieing, or just plain wrong, too?
Its SETTLED LAW, and theres really nothing you can do about that except wish it weren't so...But as mickey goldmill said:

"You can wish in one and crap in the other, and see which gets full first".
I personally wouldn't advise it, but hey, if you need it illustrated for you, theyre your hands...