Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: Fatal Cop Shooting Suspect Killed In Standoff [View all]ellisonz
(27,776 posts)Tired of being fed bullshit about how individual gun rights are more important than civic rights. And yes, I do believe that turning a blind-eye to the rampant criminality that pervades the gun industry is de facto unlimited gun rights.
Do you really think we can't have gun homicide rates approaching Australian or French levels? Do you really not see the degree of denialism that goes on amongst the gunners?
Seriously, go read this thread and tell me that they wouldn't have near unlimited gun rights if they could: http://www.democraticunderground.com/11721111
Do you read what some of the Gungeonites are posting? Here's a taste:
"In real life, knife robberies are more violent, and produce more injuries...Strong arm robberies are the most violent of all, almost always producing injuries."
"Since you get most of your gun knowledge from Brady, did you believe the Al Qaida guy who said you can buy machine guns at gun shows with little problem?"
"Buying a gun or guns is an excellent act of defiance toward Gun Prohibitionists."
"The government does not have the legal authority to determine my firearms needs, regardless of how many think it has the power."
"Yes, my time and money is far more important to me than the acts of criminals. I fail to see why I should think otherwise."
Not trying to call out - just pointing out the level of denialism that goes on in the pro-gun community. You try debating 6 people who want to have the season ad nauseum conversation that denies basic chains of causation and correlation, flinging insults, and engaging in what any sociologist would term groupthink.