Silencing the Guns

[DanTex]

106. I'll just keep posting it until you respond to it...

Sorry, no running away. The fact of the matter is, the "lies" of gun control side are technicalities and quibbles about the definition of a "loophole". But the lies of the pro-gunners are actual, well, lies:

For example, consider the recent work of fiction claiming to debunk the "myths" of gun control, written by professional climate change denier Larry Bell, and posted here not once but twice. The difference is that the pro-gun types like Larry Bell go way beyond just technical omissions that don't change to the main argument. The pro-gun lies, include pretending that the Brady Campaign has simply invented the fact that gun ownership has dropped, despite the fact that we both know this comes from GSS, universally considered the best source for gun ownership statistics by social scientists (including your friend). And then there's the claim that NCVS only counts DGUs "where a citizen kills a criminal, not when one is only wounded". This is not an omission it is an overt lie, and it makes a huge difference to the argument, because if that were true, it would be a valid reason to discount NCVS DGU statistics.

I know it may be uncomfortable for you to be confronted with such blatant lies from your fellow pro-gunners, particularly given that they were posted here twice, and they got high marks from many of the regulars, despite being full of obvious falsehoods and being written by someone whose main purpose in life is to deny science for the sake of right-wing lobbies.

I'll say it again:

Here's the thing. Presumably the DU pro-gunners represent the best and brightest of the lot, because whether or not you like to admit it, the vast majority of hardcore pro-gunners are right-wing nutjobs. So, given that even here on DU, the pro-gunners are almost universally jump all over technical inaccuracies to dismiss otherwise solid articles by credible sources, while ignoring over very blatant and central lies in pro-gun articles from right-wingers, what does that say about the intellectual and factual footing of the pro-gun ideology?