Gun Control & RKBA

HockeyMom

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45. I agree

Wed Mar 28, 2012, 05:30 PM

Mar 2012

Young women, and very old women. They consider us "defenseless" without a gun. It's just propaganda by the NRA and gun manufacturers.

As I have mentioned before, I work with the mentally impaired, which includes adult men 6' and over 200 lbs. I worked in a Group Home with 5 of them, overnight, and all alone. No gun. I would be arrested if I ever brought a gun into that situation. I have been trained in not only self-defense techniques, but how to verbally disfuse a potential violent situation, which I have done, in the middle of the night, alone, between 3 adults males. You do know Swat teams do this too? They don't just storm in, bang, bang, when their are hostages. They try to talk the perp down first.

My husband himself, the gun guy, has said many times, he could never do what I do. It has been a part of my life for decades. People in fear of their lives without a gun wouldn't last a day in a Group Home.

You cannot show FEAR. You have to be calm and use your BRAIN. What what you gun people do being all alone in the middle of the night with 5 potentially violent men without your guns? Why don't we hear of staff working this population being killed all the time because they cannot be armed?

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My BiPolar daughter could get a CCW in Florida [View all] HockeyMom Mar 2012 OP

Thank you for this discussion. truedelphi Mar 2012 #1

Exactly. I had to take them away from my FIL when he started having hallucinations, etc. Hoyt Mar 2012 #2

Which has what to do with bi-polar disorder? Tejas Mar 2012 #3

Put your guns down a moment. Both are conditions where guns are not a good mix. Hoyt Mar 2012 #8

Oh, I see, bi-polar people should be locked away. Tejas Mar 2012 #13

Tejas, I really don't think you have the acumen to be carrying guns. Hoyt Mar 2012 #15

Still thankful that you are not judge/jury/executioner! Tejas Mar 2012 #18

I can not believe someone who carries a gun and practices shooting people would ask that? Hoyt Mar 2012 #20

Quit sidestepping Hoyt, YES or NO, bi-polar people can or cannot own firearms? Tejas Mar 2012 #21

I think it would be dangerous depending upon severity -- just like lady said. Hoyt Mar 2012 #28

Your chainsaw-carrying-lunatic scenario aside, Tejas Mar 2012 #50

That is bull. I think carrying a gun is too dangerous for a lot of diseases Hoyt Mar 2012 #53

who cares if the gun owner is dangerous? provis99 Apr 2012 #57

Uh Hoyt AH1Apache Mar 2012 #41

If more people took responsibility for their family members, ManiacJoe Mar 2012 #7

I've been trying to explain to some younger people that guns are like cars when people get older. Hoyt Mar 2012 #10

I hope you also took away his car keys. Common Sense Party Mar 2012 #11

No, I sold his car instead long before the gun issue arose. Hoyt Mar 2012 #14

From what you describe sounds like she's GTG. ileus Mar 2012 #4

And in Alaska, Arizona, Vermont, and Wyoming she could carry concealed without a license. Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #5

As her mother who loves her, HockeyMom Mar 2012 #6

You're in the wrong forum if that's your issue for discussion. DonP Mar 2012 #9

She makes a good point. You might not like it because it is critical of lax gun laws. Hoyt Mar 2012 #12

This, from the guy that commented on concealed carry when the discussion was about M1 Garands DonP Mar 2012 #23

And, you are so paranoid that you can't walk out of your house without a gun. Not a good mix. Hoyt Mar 2012 #27

No I don't. Unlike you I don't have rights - I live in Illinois. DonP Mar 2012 #48

Are you saying hes capable of judgement? N/T beevul Mar 2012 #37

It all boils down to due process of law. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #17

The problem is people like you, HockeyMom. Callisto32 Mar 2012 #36

I'm sure there is a point trying to be made here... Clames Mar 2012 #16

The point was clear as could be to me. Hoyt Mar 2012 #19

Well for you... Clames Mar 2012 #22

Of course it is to someone with a vivid imagination rl6214 Mar 2012 #32

At least I don't see boogeymen that aren't there. Hoyt Mar 2012 #33

Obviously you are seeing something out there that isn't there rl6214 Mar 2012 #34

Oh the irony shadowrider Mar 2012 #49

Guns aside, do you think she is a danger to society? Glassunion Mar 2012 #24

If she no longer needs medication or a doctor's care Union Scribe Mar 2012 #25

Yes, because she has a temper if nothing else HockeyMom Mar 2012 #26

Yes, we are all individuals Union Scribe Mar 2012 #29

How would you go about crafting a law AtheistCrusader Mar 2012 #30

HockeyMom, I really think you need to study the concept of "due process"... eqfan592 Mar 2012 #55

I'd rather you or she not carry a gun as well rl6214 Mar 2012 #31

there are other options gejohnston Mar 2012 #35

My bi-polar sister-in-law bought a car. Remmah2 Mar 2012 #38

Define "large amounts of potential energy". Tejas Mar 2012 #51

Would it be defined as a 2500lb vehicle moving at a high rate of speed? oneshooter Mar 2012 #52

Mentally ill people have rights too. If she hasn't been declared incompetent, she can own a gun. slackmaster Mar 2012 #39

Are you arguing that she should NOT be allowed to get CCW license? cleanhippie Mar 2012 #40

Yes, and she herself would agree to that HockeyMom Mar 2012 #44

Then there is no problem slackmaster Mar 2012 #47

Ok, I can see what you are saying. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #54

so could I iverglas Mar 2012 #42

I agree HockeyMom Mar 2012 #45

Swat teams iverglas Mar 2012 #46

She could also become President of the United States of America Model_T Mar 2012 #43

So glad I live in Indiana for once. BiggJawn Mar 2012 #56

Florida needs to get progressive with its matrimonial laws and NY needs to get progressive Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #58