Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: Silencing the Guns [View all]DanTex
(20,709 posts)This should get you started on the DGU debate.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=428987&mesg_id=436540
And then you can move on:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=459674&mesg_id=461816
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=459674&mesg_id=462480
There are links to several peer-reviewed studies cited in there (Cook-Ludwig, Hemenway, and McDowall).
The larger point, of course, is that the Larry Bell piece you posted is completely full of false statements that anyone with half a clue could recognize from a mile away. Kleck and his critics would all agree that NCVS most certainly does not only count DGUs where someone gets killed, as your source Larry Bell claims. Also, Kleck and his critics would also all be aware that the evidence that gun ownership has dropped comes from the General Social Survey, it's not just something the gun control lobby made up.
And these are not controversial items. Larry Bell is simply wrong.
So, while y'all like to nitpick about a "clip" versus a "magazine", and quibble about the definition of a "loophole", when it comes down to the important facts, the vast majority of pro-gunners like yourself either don't know or don't care about the truth.
Or maybe you have some other explanation of why you are able to so easily overlook the obvious falsehoods in the Forbes article, and then become such a stickler for technicalities and definitions when it comes to articles like this OP.
If so, I'd love to hear about it.
Tell me I'm wrong. Tell me you really hold pro-gun editorials like the Forbes article you posted to the same standards of truthfulness that you apply to pro-control editorials.