Gun Control & RKBA

Dr_Scholl

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127. My problem with NORC and the University of Chicago

Wed Mar 28, 2012, 07:17 PM

Mar 2012

is that both are known for having a strong anti gun bias. Not to mention both are funded by the Joyce Foundation, the financial back bone of the gun control movement in this country.

Anyway, Gallup released a poll recently saying the exact opposite of the GSS. That being said, I don't trust polls very much, they're too easy to manipulate.

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Silencing the Guns [View all] ellisonz Mar 2012 OP

Apparently you don't have to be truthful AH1Apache Mar 2012 #1

You got the points I was going to make rl6214 Mar 2012 #2

No ], not really AH1Apache Mar 2012 #3

What about the facts concerning the Tucson shooting? Loudly Mar 2012 #5

And that has to do whatwith the out right lies printed in this article? AH1Apache Mar 2012 #6

Quiet, you. People died, so it's ok to make stuff up. Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #9

Was Loughner able to discharge a lot of rounds in rapid succession without reloading? baldguy Mar 2012 #19

And that has to do what with the lies in this article? AH1Apache Mar 2012 #21

What, you can't answer the questions honestly? baldguy Mar 2012 #22

I can reload a mag. in appox. 2-3 sec. AH1Apache Mar 2012 #24

Your evasive answer proves that you're deliberately missing the point. baldguy Mar 2012 #29

and you obviously don't want to AH1Apache Mar 2012 #30

No, your non-sequitur proves that you are deliberately being obtuse. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #50

And in your dystopia, the community uses that 2-3 seconds Loudly Mar 2012 #73

Let's see AH1Apache Mar 2012 #75

Good grief. Loudly Mar 2012 #76

"I think I know how to protect myself" =/= "access to convenient murder" PavePusher Mar 2012 #79

Protecting yourself means Loudly Mar 2012 #82

You are the olny person saying this. PavePusher Mar 2012 #88

I may be the only person saying it this clearly. Loudly Mar 2012 #91

who does not seems not to be one of them gejohnston Mar 2012 #93

Do not call people names. n/t PavePusher Mar 2012 #116

I sure hope you didn't hurt yourself reaching for that conclusion. AH1Apache Mar 2012 #104

he is not the people you have to worry about gejohnston Mar 2012 #81

You can outrun a machete. Loudly Mar 2012 #84

depends gejohnston Mar 2012 #87

At my age, no I can't AH1Apache Mar 2012 #105

Here, let me set you straight AH1Apache Mar 2012 #103

Learn the facts, they were still LEGAL to own. rl6214 Mar 2012 #32

What you don't seem to realize.... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #34

Because of the 31 round magazine, and its malfunction when burf Mar 2012 #96

The sunset of the AWB had absolutely nothing to do with any of that rl6214 Mar 2012 #31

Yes, that's true. Now back to the article... Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #36

Here are some that are utterly false. Oneka Mar 2012 #35

We have a name for this: Callisto32 Mar 2012 #52

A Couple Points ellisonz Mar 2012 #10

No, the point is AH1Apache Mar 2012 #12

Emotion and talking points. ellisonz Mar 2012 #13

Talking points? AH1Apache Mar 2012 #14

Yes. ellisonz Mar 2012 #15

the anger towards Clinton had died down by 96 because the AWB AH1Apache Mar 2012 #20

plus the fact that the Repubs nominated Bob Dole. TupperHappy Mar 2012 #25

Where have all the sensible Republicans gone... ellisonz Mar 2012 #27

easy answer gejohnston Mar 2012 #33

This year Mitt Romney will run against Obama and lose ... spin Mar 2012 #95

No. Callisto32 Mar 2012 #53

"The Role of Emotion in Deciding the Fate of the Nation" Dr_Scholl Mar 2012 #4

So you think we should liberalize laws regarding silencers? I must say, that's quite refreshi... Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #7

Really? ellisonz Mar 2012 #11

What's wrong with people having silencers? Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #37

I'd imagine those parts of Europe generally have much stricter gun control. n/t ellisonz Mar 2012 #44

They certainly do...but in this particular respect (silencers) their laws are more rational. Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #63

So you can buy a silencer but not a gun? Common Sense Party Mar 2012 #65

It depends on the country. Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #67

You"imagine"? Why according to you, you know EVERYTHING oneshooter Mar 2012 #123

On to the ignore list you go... ellisonz Mar 2012 #130

AWWWWW poor baby. You make claims you can't back up. oneshooter Mar 2012 #133

over our silencer regulations? gejohnston Mar 2012 #40

That doesn't compute at all. n/t ellisonz Mar 2012 #45

Check your firmwear. Callisto32 Mar 2012 #54

I don't understand why you post this article AH1Apache Mar 2012 #8

LOL total lack of reality..No mention of Fast and Furious. virginia mountainman Mar 2012 #16

Now that's Funny! DonP Mar 2012 #17

Silencing the Guns Glassunion Mar 2012 #18

It can get expensive...tell me about it. Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #39

Yea they can. I'm looking at $650 for one. oneshooter Mar 2012 #124

There was a firefight at the burf Mar 2012 #23

Just a few corrections discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #26

LAWL X_Digger Mar 2012 #28

I'd be curious to see the sales figures for ARs from 2002-2011, Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #38

Production has ramped up as well ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #41

Did I read that correctly? sarisataka Mar 2012 #42

That's likely not including the final most expensive month... ellisonz Mar 2012 #43

Sorry, I rounded sarisataka Mar 2012 #46

That's the one assertion I disagree with... ellisonz Mar 2012 #47

Then why... sarisataka Mar 2012 #48

It's the collusion with the Republicans... ellisonz Mar 2012 #51

To continue being the devil's advocate... sarisataka Mar 2012 #71

I made my point concisely and clearly... ellisonz Mar 2012 #72

OK, I'll let you off the hook... sarisataka Mar 2012 #77

The Dems for the most part are in the centrist position.... ellisonz Mar 2012 #78

the evidence shows that gejohnston Mar 2012 #80

Kinda like a Mexican stand-off no... ellisonz Mar 2012 #89

vive la difference!!! sarisataka Mar 2012 #98

I am not sure how... sarisataka Mar 2012 #94

Look around... ellisonz Mar 2012 #99

So let me get this straight AH1Apache Mar 2012 #108

Acutaly what I said was sarisataka Mar 2012 #118

that certainly was the case in Ohio gejohnston Mar 2012 #49

HAHA. Callisto32 Mar 2012 #55

Not all barrels are threaded... ileus Mar 2012 #56

That explains why some screws are loose. Remmah2 Mar 2012 #61

Good article. And I see that the right-wing talking points have arrived right on cue! DanTex Mar 2012 #57

if the article was gejohnston Mar 2012 #58

As far as I can tell, the "inaccuracy" amounts to failing to mention the loophole in... DanTex Mar 2012 #68

If you look up the word loophole, gejohnston Mar 2012 #74

Try a little harder ge... DanTex Mar 2012 #97

Here is one gejohnston Mar 2012 #102

I'll just keep posting it until you respond to it... DanTex Mar 2012 #106

you were asking me a question? gejohnston Mar 2012 #107

So you concede that the Larry Bell article in Forbes was full of shit? DanTex Mar 2012 #115

since I did not read the article gejohnston Mar 2012 #117

Disappointing. DanTex Mar 2012 #119

I did not read the fucking article gejohnston Mar 2012 #125

Hey, you asked me about examples of pro-gun lies. DanTex Mar 2012 #131

so can you be honest about anti gun lies? gejohnston Mar 2012 #135

You are still confused on the issue of "loophole". PavePusher Mar 2012 #83

As one of the OP's of the Larry Bell article from Forbes... DanTex Mar 2012 #100

It's obvious to everyone else but you... pneutin Mar 2012 #101

LOL! You're new, so I'll cut you some slack... DanTex Mar 2012 #111

Really? PavePusher Mar 2012 #113

Yes, really. DanTex Mar 2012 #120

LOL Reading comprehension is not your strong suit pneutin Mar 2012 #122

There have been even more surveys... sarisataka Mar 2012 #126

Awwww... it's "reading comprehension" snark! DanTex Mar 2012 #128

On gun ownership rates.... PavePusher Mar 2012 #114

It comes from the General Social Survey. DanTex Mar 2012 #121

My problem with NORC and the University of Chicago Dr_Scholl Mar 2012 #127

LOL, now NORC has a strong anti-gun bias... DanTex Mar 2012 #129

Then maybe you can explain the difference. Dr_Scholl Mar 2012 #134

Nice fallacies. Glassunion Mar 2012 #90

glad I have more than 100 posts... ileus Mar 2012 #60

You think the article is a "good" and "sane". Do you think it's accurate? Johnny Rico Mar 2012 #64

Don't expect an answer AH1Apache Mar 2012 #66

Number od posts does not seem to correlate closely with factual accuracy.... PavePusher Mar 2012 #85

And we get anti gunner AH1Apache Mar 2012 #112

My, what a short memory gun grabbers have. beevul Mar 2012 #59

Well said. AH1Apache Mar 2012 #62

So many words for so little content. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #69

Wow AH1Apache Mar 2012 #70

Don't forget to add that AR and AK pattern rifles.... PavePusher Mar 2012 #86

That's my only goal for my new AR build. ileus Mar 2012 #92

You evil barrel shroud owner. Remmah2 Mar 2012 #110

AR platform has been the traditional CMP rifle for years. nt Remmah2 Mar 2012 #109

Anti-gun types are fond of making spree killers reload, aren't they? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2012 #132