Gun Control & RKBA

DonP

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22. Pay attention! It's easy to understand

Fri Mar 30, 2012, 12:18 PM

Mar 2012

The NRA IS a paper tiger, with no real political power to speak of ... unless they get pro second amendment legislation passed or win a major court case.

Then they are a mysterious dark force, funded by the Koch brothers, ALEC or the other latest designated hobgoblin from an editorial or GD, and they are clearly working against the will of the people.

Because ... with "only" 4.5 million dues paying members, they couldn't possibly represent a majority of American gun owners, whereas the Brady bunch with 8 members, excuse me 9 members now, and the handful of un-indicted members of MAIG, both groups supported by a handful of millionaires and a billionaire or two, clearly represents the will of the majority of the people.

See how easy it is to follow?

(The only problem is the legislators don't seem to be listening to the message of how powerless they are and Alan Gura keeps kicking ass in court.)

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Florida Turns �Gunshine State� After Years of Republican Control [View all] ellisonz Mar 2012 OP

So, politicians and Citizens are equal. What's not to like? n/t PavePusher Mar 2012 #1

Well then we should allow everyone under 18 to tote so they won't be unequal? n/t ellisonz Mar 2012 #2

ya know, the word "tote" really bugs me when used in this context. eqfan592 Mar 2012 #5

Some of us... ellisonz Mar 2012 #6

You make sure and let me know when some of those folks show up. ;) (nt) eqfan592 Mar 2012 #7

No, actually most of YOU deal in emotion and very little fact rl6214 Mar 2012 #10

+1 ;) n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2012 #12

Oh the power of groupthink! ellisonz Mar 2012 #20

This was discussed at length after I brought up the same thing and the anti-gun zealots rl6214 Mar 2012 #9

Playing the "children" canard again? Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #18

Dodge. n/t ellisonz Mar 2012 #19

Correct, you did. Glad to see you've started self-identifying. PavePusher Mar 2012 #23

It's a fair question. ellisonz Mar 2012 #28

That is no more of a "fair question" than those who ask if... eqfan592 Mar 2012 #30

Not the same at all... ellisonz Mar 2012 #31

Oh really? It's not a morality question? eqfan592 Mar 2012 #34

Bunch of rubbish. ellisonz Mar 2012 #35

I'll take that as your concession of the point. ;) eqfan592 Mar 2012 #36

Thank you for admitting your extremist position: ellisonz Mar 2012 #39

Thank you for admitting your intellectual dishonesty. eqfan592 Mar 2012 #42

Dodge. n/t ellisonz Mar 2012 #43

So me pointing out your intellectual dishonesty is a dodge? eqfan592 Mar 2012 #46

If you support letting guns into State Houses... ellisonz Mar 2012 #48

Actually, logically, you can object. eqfan592 Mar 2012 #54

More dishonesty and veil insults from the anti-gun zealots rl6214 Mar 2012 #68

It's unusual for somebody to give a discription of the action they are taking as you just did... eqfan592 Mar 2012 #24

Having wittiness is generally a good thing... ellisonz Mar 2012 #29

I don't think "belies" is the word you're looking for... petronius Mar 2012 #32

You are correct. ellisonz Mar 2012 #33

More like pointing out a Straw Man. Atypical Liberal Mar 2012 #57

I say leave it where it is. Straw Man Mar 2012 #38

Well then it's a stupid argument to say... ellisonz Mar 2012 #41

Then may I suggest you stick to discussing that issue? eqfan592 Mar 2012 #44

Not really... ellisonz Mar 2012 #45

Pointing out that you are making a fool out of yourself is intimidation now? eqfan592 Mar 2012 #47

Case-in-point. ellisonz Mar 2012 #52

Case dismissed! :P (nt) eqfan592 Mar 2012 #53

Um ... no, not at all. Straw Man Mar 2012 #49

Are you suggesting there be no limits on possession of firearms... ellisonz Mar 2012 #51

No. Straw Man Mar 2012 #62

My pride is fully in tact... ellisonz Mar 2012 #63

It shouldn't be. Straw Man Mar 2012 #64

I for one believe that he is not joking. oneshooter Mar 2012 #65

Aww thanks... ellisonz Mar 2012 #66

I think you're hallucinating. Straw Man Mar 2012 #67

Big time +1 (nt) eqfan592 Mar 2012 #71

Where's your outrage? mvccd1000 Mar 2012 #4

since Florida has stricter laws than where I'm from, gejohnston Mar 2012 #3

Bloomberg news and quoting dan gross, pres of the brady bunch? rl6214 Mar 2012 #8

In fairness Marion Hammer of the NRA is quoted too. n/t ellisonz Mar 2012 #26

First in freedom....hopefully all states will follow Florida's lead. ileus Mar 2012 #11

You forgot to put the little COLGATE4 Mar 2012 #13

My guess is he wasn't being sarcastic. ;) (nt) eqfan592 Mar 2012 #16

I was (nt) COLGATE4 Mar 2012 #50

Ah, so then it was you who forgot... eqfan592 Mar 2012 #55

Guilty as charged. (Just trying to COLGATE4 Mar 2012 #59

Cause and effect at work? DonP Mar 2012 #14

Yep. eqfan592 Mar 2012 #17

Wait a second... I thought the NRA is a "paper tiger" Glassunion Mar 2012 #15

Pay attention! It's easy to understand DonP Mar 2012 #22

The point was and has been... ellisonz Mar 2012 #25

If the GOP holds power over the NRA why do they allow them to financially support Democrats? Glassunion Mar 2012 #37

Plausible deniabiity. ellisonz Mar 2012 #40

I disagree Glassunion Mar 2012 #56

What's undeniable is the NRA donates more to Democrats than the Brady Camapign does. friendly_iconoclast Mar 2012 #58

I wonder what would happen if G Zimmerman showed up today with his permit and a gun? Hoyt Mar 2012 #21

He's their boy... ellisonz Mar 2012 #27

Is there some reason he can't show up today with his edc. ileus Mar 2012 #60

I'm sure he does too, being just another law-abiding, fine member of the modern gun culture. Hoyt Mar 2012 #61

Again, not knowing what the "modern gun culture" really is rl6214 Mar 2012 #69

Feelin' pretty good, actually sylvi Mar 2012 #70