Fatal Cop Shooting Suspect Killed In Standoff

[beevul]

56. I don't recall anyone saying that.

"1. So are you saying that former Chief Justice Warren Burger is being dishonest when he said that “The Second Amendment doesn’t guarantee the right to have firearms at all,” Mr. Burger said in a speech. In a 1991 interview, Mr. Burger called the individual rights view “one of the greatest pieces of fraud — I repeat the word ‘fraud’ — on the American public by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime.” - If we can't change anything, why even have elections?"

Thats HIS OPINION. It is in the minority.

"2. I think your whole argument about the gun industry ignores the entire reaction to the assault weapons ban, which many acknowledge here lead to a dramatic increase in attempts on behalf of the gun industry to sell things such as modification kits to get around the regulations."


I think you don't know exactly what youre talking about here. The assault weapon ban, BY LAW, made the selling of rifles with a certain number of "evil features" illegal. Gun companies afterwards sold rifles WITHOUT those features. It also made the selling of large capacity magazines manufactured past a certain date unlawful. Magazines manufactured BEFORE that date were available NEW bduring the entire duration of the ban.

If strict compliance with the letter of law equals "rampant criminality" in your view, its no wonder you get into insult/shouting matches with people in this forum.

"Is nobody responsible for what they sell in this country?"

Yes, gun manufacturers and retailers are precisely as responsible and accountable for the misuse of the lawful product that they make and sell, as auto manufacturers and retailers are.

Whats the problem with that?

"3. So all the political cartoonists and critics are wrong about the nature of this debt? If you believe that, you're selling a bill of goods, of deceits and distortions. Two wrongs don't make a right."

Its not at all clear to me what exactly is meant by the above, so I will refrain from comment until that changes.


"I was immediately received with disrespect."

You come into this forum, pushing things which have been disproven, citing one percenters who are KNOWN anti-gunners as your sources, claiming things as fact without citing any unbiased sources or empirical evidence, and you expected...what, exactly?


"People are tired of the violence, if you can't understand their outrage there is no sense in us having further discussions."

The violence, as has been cited repeatedly in this forum, is declining, in spite of RECORD gun sales.

If people are tired of the violence, I suggest focusing on the causes of the violence, rather than the implements the violent choose to employ when engaging in it.

Those open to such things are generally met with open minds hereabouts. Those that "jump the gun" (pun intended) aren't.