Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: Lawmaker wants military patrols after child's murder [View all]gejohnston
(17,502 posts)and what scientific community outside of the usual suspects? Sorry, come up with something in a criminology journal not paid for by the Joyce Foundation. Oh yeah, the body of the research never seems to match the conclusions or press release.
For example, when Canada passed their 1977 gun control law suicides nor crime went down. Granted fewer Canadian's shot themselves, but the number of suicides increased to make up the difference. Can you show changes in violent crime rates in Europe before and after their laws passed? Of course you don't actually believe in real "science" or real "research" because criminologists that do not take Joyce money and do not come to the results you like is a right wing, climate science denying, racist, misogynist, NRA stooge. But why listen to people who actually follow the evidence to come to a conclusion instead of making the evidence fit the desired results when you can just go by the Brady bullet points?
Here is a thought: If suicide by gun is part of "gun violence" then suicide is a violent act, correct? That is what you said.
If suicide is a violent act, then Japan (which is skewed since murder/suicides are labeled as all suicides. Cold cases tend to get labeled as suicides), South Korea, France, and Hungary are more violent societies than the US since their suicide rates alone are much higher than our murder and suicide rate combined. Even more violent are Russia and South Africa since not only are their suicide rates astronomical, their murder rates make us look like Switzerland and Norway.
What do you "experts" suggest we do about rope violence, knife violence, train violence, bridge violence, etc?