Gun Control & RKBA

gateley

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7. I agree with seabeyond, that many people can't fathom being in a situation where it's needed.

Reply to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Thu Apr 5, 2012, 06:16 PM

Apr 2012

Many years ago I was walking home from work -- bright, sunny day, lots of people still coming and going, and a guy started walking with me and talking. He was making me nervous but since he was asking legit questions about rentals in that area, I conversed with him. Had a funny feeling and when I got to the entrance to my apartment building I stopped and looked up and down the street, and like a nightmare there wasn't a soul in sight. So I turned and ran down the steps through this kind of tunnel to get to the door and I turned around and he was coming after me -- charging down the stairs. At just that moment someone walked out of the apartment building and the guy bolted. But the next day I called the police and asked what I needed to do to get a gun. I was scared to death and I had no doubt if I'd had one, I would have shot him (much to my surprise).

Turns out I never got a gun and it's probably a good thing I didn't have one then, but I'll never forget the feeling of fear, cornered, with a predator coming at me full speed.

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Why is it so hard... [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 OP

because, as a woman, lots of decades on this planet seabeyond Apr 2012 #1

I can relate to both of you gejohnston Apr 2012 #3

I congratulate you. I, personally, have never needed a fire extinguisher. TheWraith Apr 2012 #5

a fire extinguisher is not a gun. just to put it simply seabeyond Apr 2012 #6

must be nice to have a husband who handles all that for you. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #16

those are choices we make. as i said, i lived a lot of years by myself. seabeyond Apr 2012 #19

that is fine for you. you are a part of a WE but, to deny that YOU have no need for a gun Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #30

wow. lol. so, are you suggesting i insist my hubby get rid of guns or i walk? seabeyond Apr 2012 #33

I really don't give a shit what you and your husband do. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #43

How dare you tell people how they can come in here. WingDinger Apr 2012 #53

Ya know, you might have had a perfectly valid point... eqfan592 Apr 2012 #102

please see my post #108 to seabeyond in this thread. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #109

Whining? No, I am settling things like adults. The peer group, is just as important as JURY. WingDinger Apr 2012 #124

well, that is good to know that you think that way. seems a lot around here don't. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #127

you really have no idea how snarky was your own thought process. I respect you being honest Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #18

omg.... because i have never felt the need for a gun, and expressed why others may feel as i, seabeyond Apr 2012 #20

I am just trying to get you to realize that part of your NOT needing a gun is the fact that Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #32

i do NOT want them. they have NEVER been used. i went over a decade living by myself without them seabeyond Apr 2012 #35

you don't want them and yet you have them in YOUR home. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #39

Not snark, an analogy. PavePusher Apr 2012 #84

No snark there rl6214 Apr 2012 #86

This is where the conversation gets interesting. ManiacJoe Apr 2012 #10

we play the odds in ALL things. yes, the odds are so very low, that i will continue seabeyond Apr 2012 #14

I am sure you and your husband have reduced your odds for being violated in your home. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #21

again... you are ignoring the decade and a half that i lived on my own. nt seabeyond Apr 2012 #28

when you were young, Yes, I got that and addressed it. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #34

reno nevada and calif. IF i had chosen to live somewhere seabeyond Apr 2012 #40

yes, I know your mind set Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #42

that is bullshit. i walk tomorrow and i would not have a gun in my house. seabeyond Apr 2012 #44

yes. just forget it. You don't get it and you never will. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #46

ok. i guess what you are saying is if a woman is married, she does not get to have an opinion seabeyond Apr 2012 #50

Actually, I am trying to articulate a philosophy that has been on my mind for a while now and, Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #108

gosh... and thank you so much tuesday seabeyond Apr 2012 #111

I see what you are saying but, Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #112

i kinda get what you are saying in this post and find it more interesting than the OP seabeyond Apr 2012 #114

I have been trying to make a cohesive statement and a cogent OP for the Feminist group Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #117

the thing I find perplexing gejohnston Apr 2012 #118

my mom grew up in the midwest. spent a lot of time hunting with an uncle seabeyond Apr 2012 #121

and btw.... the 18 yrs we have been married, he has never needed the gun, either. nt seabeyond Apr 2012 #29

BUT>>>he HAS ONE or maybe more. does he not? Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #36

I find that interesting Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #13

yes... here in texas seabeyond Apr 2012 #17

EXCELLENT POINT fightthegoodfightnow Apr 2012 #128

re: "he is responsible. it is his to do. i respect that." discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #55

I'm about as liberal as it gets... SteveABG Apr 2012 #2

The problem is not everyone can distinguish between movonne Apr 2012 #11

And those who feel they have a problem... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #66

Well there is a good idea. Perhaps only people trained and certified should be permitted to Warren Stupidity Apr 2012 #91

And more broad-brush generalizations... eqfan592 Apr 2012 #100

google shall issue. Warren Stupidity Apr 2012 #104

shall issue gejohnston Apr 2012 #107

re: "Perhaps only people trained and certified should be permitted to carry... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #132

Ideology. rrneck Apr 2012 #4

Still locked into that "emotional anti gun" meme. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #24

yes. the emotional thing on both sides disgusts me. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #38

Socialism is an economic system rrneck Apr 2012 #45

"The bulk of consumer demand including politics is emotionally driven." discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #56

Did I say Socialism? Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #62

Didn't KGO have have gejohnston Apr 2012 #68

Socialism is a socialist ideology. rrneck Apr 2012 #73

Ah, back in one of your foul moods I see Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #103

Petty bullshit always puts me in a foul mood. rrneck Apr 2012 #105

You must only read your own posts Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #106

Why do you think rrneck Apr 2012 #110

Thanks for an excellent question and here is my simple answer. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #120

Nope. rrneck Apr 2012 #123

I don't know why you say "nope", as we agree on most of it. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #125

Disagree on a couple of things gejohnston Apr 2012 #126

I keep saying "nope" because we disagree. rrneck Apr 2012 #129

Not quite sure what you mean by "emotional embroidery" Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #130

The preference you show rrneck Apr 2012 #131

yes Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2012 #25

I agree with seabeyond, that many people can't fathom being in a situation where it's needed. gateley Apr 2012 #7

Pepper spray might work for you or someone like you ... spin Apr 2012 #22

That is a good option (and suggestion). Unfortunately, it's not good enough for most into guns. Hoyt Apr 2012 #27

Your brush is too broad. ManiacJoe Apr 2012 #48

Do you carry that instead of a gun? Any other gun guys wish to speak up? Hoyt Apr 2012 #52

Not instead of, but in addition to. ManiacJoe Apr 2012 #54

^^ Callisto32 Apr 2012 #95

I carry a kimber pepper blaster where my EDC isn't allowed. ileus Apr 2012 #60

I carry both ... spin Apr 2012 #49

Ditto n/t X_Digger Apr 2012 #57

Good post... rl6214 Apr 2012 #87

Really? Callisto32 Apr 2012 #94

That's very thoughtful of you, thanks! I like the idea of a strobe and alarm a LOT! gateley Apr 2012 #74

Absolutely! discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #77

People who practice "situational awareness" ... spin Apr 2012 #80

Yes -- I took a class when I was thinking about getting a gun after this incident, and gateley Apr 2012 #99

That sounds like a very upsetting experience. discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #58

I have no problem with people (responsible, non-Zimmerman people) carrying guns. I just gateley Apr 2012 #76

Bravo! discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #79

The very next day I called the police and asked "how do I get a gun, and where can I learn to use it gateley Apr 2012 #98

A bit of a straw man- digonswine Apr 2012 #8

Agreed discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #59

Defense in your own home Politicalboi Apr 2012 #9

I like the way you put it...I agree with everything you said... movonne Apr 2012 #12

Thanks Politicalboi Apr 2012 #15

+A bunch. Hoyt Apr 2012 #26

For some reason many people can't seem to believe that bad things happen in churches ... spin Apr 2012 #47

one point gejohnston Apr 2012 #51

Point taken discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #61

Let's put those restrictions on the LEO's first, eh? Callisto32 Apr 2012 #96

"Unless we have nukes or tanks in our yards, that reason is moot." eqfan592 Apr 2012 #101

Sure it's valid for SD in a small percentage of situations. But why arm millions of citizens on the Hoyt Apr 2012 #23

Yup Politicalboi Apr 2012 #37

re: "I think most who carry are just Zimmermans waiting for the "perfect storm."" discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #63

Most would have said same about Zimmerman before he murdered unarmed teenager. Hoyt Apr 2012 #67

"...you guys never consider..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #69

But, you admit all aren't. Again Zimmy seemed responsible too Hoyt Apr 2012 #70

I can only talk about the folks I know. discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #71

The key point is your friends may be the gods of carriers, but all are not. Hoyt Apr 2012 #72

re: "...your friends may be the gods of carriers, but all are not." discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #75

Zimmerman being a recent example. Lougher too. Hoyt Apr 2012 #78

I don't think Loughner... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #81

He was legal until he started shooting people in the head. Hoyt Apr 2012 #82

He was permitted to legally make the purchase. discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #113

Loughner didn't have a concealed carry license rl6214 Apr 2012 #90

couldn't leave home without a machete or two strapped to your body? rl6214 Apr 2012 #89

All I want to know is... discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #115

Pretty broad brush again for your normal, baseless accusations. rl6214 Apr 2012 #88

Data show you are wrong. Callisto32 Apr 2012 #97

Great post. Looks like you're getting some sound replies. Starboard Tack Apr 2012 #31

Thanks discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #64

because some believe they're only lethal weapons carried by hidden criminals. ileus Apr 2012 #41

It is truly sad that some feel that way. discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #65

I can think of a couple of reasons Kali Apr 2012 #83

re: "being taught to fear guns" discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #116

Because they have no concept of right and wrong and just want to coddle the criminal rl6214 Apr 2012 #85

Damn liberals. Bleeding hearts. Brie and Chardonnay Volvo drivers. Warren Stupidity Apr 2012 #92

I drink Merlot gejohnston Apr 2012 #119

Someone with good taste ;) n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Apr 2012 #122

Really? Or you left off the sarcasm tag? Logical Apr 2012 #93