Gun Control & RKBA

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11. Such people may not agree on all the items in the "gun rights" agenda ...

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 01:16 PM

Apr 2012

but it is obvious that since they are gun owners, they are not totally opposed to all gun rights.

Suppose you ran a poll among only gun owners and asked questions such as, "Should a citizen be allowed to use a firearm to stop an intruder in his home who intends to inflict serious injury or death? Should a citizen be allowed to use a legally concealed firearm on the street in order to stop an attacker who intends to inflict serious injury or death? Should a citizen have a duty to retreat in such situations?

An extremely high percentage of the gun owners would answer, "Yes" to the first two questions and, "No" to the last. An overwhelming majority would support the use of deadly force to protect a home, but a significant majority would support licensed concealed carry and "Stand Your Ground" laws.

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Virginia Tech anniversary creates difficult moment on gun control for lawmakers [View all] ellisonz Apr 2012 OP

Interesting, and I was with you until the first 'left turn' sarisataka Apr 2012 #1

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That's all you've got? rl6214 Apr 2012 #19

It's a flawed article... ellisonz Apr 2012 #21

I don't see anything in thaty excerpt that he was incorrect about. PavePusher Apr 2012 #26

The entire premise that an external terror attack reflects on internal gun control laws! ellisonz Apr 2012 #29

How so? Why would a terrorist not focus on poorly defended targets? PavePusher Apr 2012 #34

So you're saying that if the hotel guests were better armed? ellisonz Apr 2012 #35

It wouldn't have hurt to have more guns... sarisataka Apr 2012 #41

Do you think the Mumbai attack would have had better, equal or worse results (from the perspective PavePusher Apr 2012 #49

A massive imbecile but... sarisataka Apr 2012 #42

Better? sarisataka Apr 2012 #27

Lawmakers are working - on guns rights. GreenStormCloud Apr 2012 #2

Interesting... mvccd1000 Apr 2012 #3

You're presuming all of those people agree with the "gun rights" agenda... ellisonz Apr 2012 #6

Such people may not agree on all the items in the "gun rights" agenda ... spin Apr 2012 #11

All the editing in the world... ellisonz Apr 2012 #18

Are members of a militia people? nt rrneck Apr 2012 #4

Yes. But you cannot deny that the construct is made... ellisonz Apr 2012 #5

The "construct" is the problem. rrneck Apr 2012 #8

You do realize that... ellisonz Apr 2012 #10

What do the terms rrneck Apr 2012 #14

Partially seperate Constitutional issues... ellisonz Apr 2012 #17

Oh now. rrneck Apr 2012 #20

Oy Vey. ellisonz Apr 2012 #30

My my rrneck Apr 2012 #32

It doesn't and you're changing the claim to fit your argument... ellisonz Apr 2012 #33

You never addressed any other rrneck Apr 2012 #36

One minor nit to pick. beevul Apr 2012 #43

True that. Important indeed. nt rrneck Apr 2012 #46

"All that matters is how we interpret the constitution in the context of today's reality." ellisonz Apr 2012 #44

You could at least draw your own cartoons. rrneck Apr 2012 #47

Why did the founders continue the decentralized militia system? Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #15

They are doing what their constituents elected them to do - protect gun rights. GreenStormCloud Apr 2012 #9

And that is it in a nutshell. Being anti-gun is a death sentence in congress. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #13

Reasons why. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #12

"the preambulatory phrase of the second amendment does not exist." ellisonz Apr 2012 #16

Nope. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #22

You wrote that... ellisonz Apr 2012 #23

No, that is not what I wrote. You SELECTIVELY QUOTED what I wrote. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #24

Kids. Waddyagonnado? nt rrneck Apr 2012 #25

Didn't change the meaning one bit. ellisonz Apr 2012 #31

If it didn't change the meaning why did you omit it? Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #37

I appreciate your lengthy attempt at an argument... ellisonz Apr 2012 #38

No matter how many times you try and put words in my mouth, it won't work. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #39

Why do you hate freedom? ellisonz Apr 2012 #40

I never said he did. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #48

We haven't done better because people keep trying to limit the 2A... ileus Apr 2012 #28

It might be because most further restrictions are either expensive, intrusive, or unworkable. krispos42 Apr 2012 #45