Gun Control & RKBA

ellisonz

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38. I appreciate your lengthy attempt at an argument...

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 11:25 PM

Apr 2012

...but that is what you said and it didn't change the meaning. No matter how hard you try and Romney that one

2. The Supreme Court did not unanimously rule - there are 3 different opinions in Heller and there is nothing unanimous about it. Cites please!

3. POTUS is an elected office with no power to change the Constitution.

4. This still tells us nothing about the scope of the Second Amendment in regards to the restrictions that all 9 SCTOUS members agree exist.

5. You and I have had this argument before and I'll be away much of this weekend and don't need to stage it again because as you yourself acknowledge, you take "absurd" positions for the sake of hyperbole. I have no desire at this moment to debate an extremist position at length regarding the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution.

GO LOS ANGELES DODGERS! THINK BLUE!

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Virginia Tech anniversary creates difficult moment on gun control for lawmakers [View all] ellisonz Apr 2012 OP

Interesting, and I was with you until the first 'left turn' sarisataka Apr 2012 #1

... ellisonz Apr 2012 #7

That's all you've got? rl6214 Apr 2012 #19

It's a flawed article... ellisonz Apr 2012 #21

I don't see anything in thaty excerpt that he was incorrect about. PavePusher Apr 2012 #26

The entire premise that an external terror attack reflects on internal gun control laws! ellisonz Apr 2012 #29

How so? Why would a terrorist not focus on poorly defended targets? PavePusher Apr 2012 #34

So you're saying that if the hotel guests were better armed? ellisonz Apr 2012 #35

It wouldn't have hurt to have more guns... sarisataka Apr 2012 #41

Do you think the Mumbai attack would have had better, equal or worse results (from the perspective PavePusher Apr 2012 #49

A massive imbecile but... sarisataka Apr 2012 #42

Better? sarisataka Apr 2012 #27

Lawmakers are working - on guns rights. GreenStormCloud Apr 2012 #2

Interesting... mvccd1000 Apr 2012 #3

You're presuming all of those people agree with the "gun rights" agenda... ellisonz Apr 2012 #6

Such people may not agree on all the items in the "gun rights" agenda ... spin Apr 2012 #11

All the editing in the world... ellisonz Apr 2012 #18

Are members of a militia people? nt rrneck Apr 2012 #4

Yes. But you cannot deny that the construct is made... ellisonz Apr 2012 #5

The "construct" is the problem. rrneck Apr 2012 #8

You do realize that... ellisonz Apr 2012 #10

What do the terms rrneck Apr 2012 #14

Partially seperate Constitutional issues... ellisonz Apr 2012 #17

Oh now. rrneck Apr 2012 #20

Oy Vey. ellisonz Apr 2012 #30

My my rrneck Apr 2012 #32

It doesn't and you're changing the claim to fit your argument... ellisonz Apr 2012 #33

You never addressed any other rrneck Apr 2012 #36

One minor nit to pick. beevul Apr 2012 #43

True that. Important indeed. nt rrneck Apr 2012 #46

"All that matters is how we interpret the constitution in the context of today's reality." ellisonz Apr 2012 #44

You could at least draw your own cartoons. rrneck Apr 2012 #47

Why did the founders continue the decentralized militia system? Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #15

They are doing what their constituents elected them to do - protect gun rights. GreenStormCloud Apr 2012 #9

And that is it in a nutshell. Being anti-gun is a death sentence in congress. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #13

Reasons why. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #12

"the preambulatory phrase of the second amendment does not exist." ellisonz Apr 2012 #16

Nope. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #22

You wrote that... ellisonz Apr 2012 #23

No, that is not what I wrote. You SELECTIVELY QUOTED what I wrote. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #24

Kids. Waddyagonnado? nt rrneck Apr 2012 #25

Didn't change the meaning one bit. ellisonz Apr 2012 #31

If it didn't change the meaning why did you omit it? Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #37

I appreciate your lengthy attempt at an argument... ellisonz Apr 2012 #38

No matter how many times you try and put words in my mouth, it won't work. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #39

Why do you hate freedom? ellisonz Apr 2012 #40

I never said he did. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #48

We haven't done better because people keep trying to limit the 2A... ileus Apr 2012 #28

It might be because most further restrictions are either expensive, intrusive, or unworkable. krispos42 Apr 2012 #45