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krispos42

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45. It might be because most further restrictions are either expensive, intrusive, or unworkable.
Sat Apr 14, 2012, 11:04 AM
Apr 2012

Mental health evaluation before buying a gun? So what's the criteria, and who sets it? In some places, "I want a gun for self-defense" is not a reason unless you routinely carry around huge amounts of cash. Should that be the standard?
And where are we going to get a million mental-health evaluations a month done on top of everything else? And who pays for it?

Outlawing lawfully concealed or open carry? And how will this stop the guy that sticks a sawed-off shotgun under an overcoat to go rob a c-store?

National mandatory registration? Yeah, until the gun is stolen... as most guns used by career criminals are. Plus the issue of the pre-existing 240 millions guns already in circulation that aren't registered.

Ammunition purchasing limits? To what, 5 rounds a day? Anything past 5 dead bodies is a mass murder, so attempting to limit ammo purchases to prevent a mass shooting requires a purchase limit so low at to be untenetable. And shotguns... up to 15 pellets per shot!

Restricting ammunition to guns you already own? Well, aside from the fact that it requires registration of your guns first, there are 3 extremely common autopistol cartridges and 3 extremely common revolver cartridges. The 9mm Luger, the .40 S&W, and the .45 ACP probably account for 80% or more of autopistol ammunition sales, and the .38 Special, the .357 Magnum, and the .45 Colt probably account for 80% or more of revolver ammunition sales. Limiting a person to purchasing "only" 9mm ammo it like limiting a person to "only" purchasing a red car.

Private-sale background checks? Not a bad idea, but beyond the scope of federal law. It would have to be done on a state-by-state basis.

Safe-storage laws? Useful only for after-the-tragedy prosecutions, unless gun owners (you know, US citizens) were subject to random, unannounced spot inspections by the police. You know, like parolees duly convicted of a crime are subject to.

Smart guns? Let the cops use the technology first. If the rank-and-file cops will put their trust in guns that have electronic lockouts and such on them, I'm interested. If they won't, though... if they will only trust a purely mechanical gun like a Glock, then I'm not interested.

Microstamping? Again, requires registration to work and won't matter to the crazed mass-shooter. And, of course, IT DOESN'T WORK from a mechanical perspective.

Barcoding individual bullets? Requires ammunition registration, and then the purchaser cannot confirm the number etched on the bullet is the same as the box label. In other words, reasonable doubt. It would also send the price of new ammunition through the roof, encouraging people to discover the wonderful hobby of... handloading their own ammunition!




If the NY Times wants to see violent crimes drop (which would by necessity include gun-grime rates) then the would advocate for drug legalization.

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Interesting, and I was with you until the first 'left turn' sarisataka Apr 2012 #1
... ellisonz Apr 2012 #7
That's all you've got? rl6214 Apr 2012 #19
It's a flawed article... ellisonz Apr 2012 #21
I don't see anything in thaty excerpt that he was incorrect about. PavePusher Apr 2012 #26
The entire premise that an external terror attack reflects on internal gun control laws! ellisonz Apr 2012 #29
How so? Why would a terrorist not focus on poorly defended targets? PavePusher Apr 2012 #34
So you're saying that if the hotel guests were better armed? ellisonz Apr 2012 #35
It wouldn't have hurt to have more guns... sarisataka Apr 2012 #41
Do you think the Mumbai attack would have had better, equal or worse results (from the perspective PavePusher Apr 2012 #49
A massive imbecile but... sarisataka Apr 2012 #42
Better? sarisataka Apr 2012 #27
Lawmakers are working - on guns rights. GreenStormCloud Apr 2012 #2
Interesting... mvccd1000 Apr 2012 #3
You're presuming all of those people agree with the "gun rights" agenda... ellisonz Apr 2012 #6
Such people may not agree on all the items in the "gun rights" agenda ... spin Apr 2012 #11
All the editing in the world... ellisonz Apr 2012 #18
Are members of a militia people? nt rrneck Apr 2012 #4
Yes. But you cannot deny that the construct is made... ellisonz Apr 2012 #5
The "construct" is the problem. rrneck Apr 2012 #8
You do realize that... ellisonz Apr 2012 #10
What do the terms rrneck Apr 2012 #14
Partially seperate Constitutional issues... ellisonz Apr 2012 #17
Oh now. rrneck Apr 2012 #20
Oy Vey. ellisonz Apr 2012 #30
My my rrneck Apr 2012 #32
It doesn't and you're changing the claim to fit your argument... ellisonz Apr 2012 #33
You never addressed any other rrneck Apr 2012 #36
One minor nit to pick. beevul Apr 2012 #43
True that. Important indeed. nt rrneck Apr 2012 #46
"All that matters is how we interpret the constitution in the context of today's reality." ellisonz Apr 2012 #44
You could at least draw your own cartoons. rrneck Apr 2012 #47
Why did the founders continue the decentralized militia system? Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #15
They are doing what their constituents elected them to do - protect gun rights. GreenStormCloud Apr 2012 #9
And that is it in a nutshell. Being anti-gun is a death sentence in congress. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #13
Reasons why. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #12
"the preambulatory phrase of the second amendment does not exist." ellisonz Apr 2012 #16
Nope. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #22
You wrote that... ellisonz Apr 2012 #23
No, that is not what I wrote. You SELECTIVELY QUOTED what I wrote. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #24
Kids. Waddyagonnado? nt rrneck Apr 2012 #25
Didn't change the meaning one bit. ellisonz Apr 2012 #31
If it didn't change the meaning why did you omit it? Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #37
I appreciate your lengthy attempt at an argument... ellisonz Apr 2012 #38
No matter how many times you try and put words in my mouth, it won't work. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #39
Why do you hate freedom? ellisonz Apr 2012 #40
I never said he did. Atypical Liberal Apr 2012 #48
We haven't done better because people keep trying to limit the 2A... ileus Apr 2012 #28
It might be because most further restrictions are either expensive, intrusive, or unworkable. krispos42 Apr 2012 #45
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