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In reply to the discussion: THIS is the NRA...... [View all]gejohnston
(17,502 posts)36. not willingly blind, just deeper thinking
The gungeon is troll-friendly territory because, as long as you don't ever make any comments about any topic except for guns, you can get away with expressing right-wing views, routinely criticizing liberal Democrats and prominent progressive voices while celebrating Republican legislative victories, citing FOX News and WashingtonTimes (and whining about "genetic fallacy" when you get called out) while complaining that progressive media outlets are "biased", supporting right-wing lobby groups like the NRA, and so on.
If a moderate or conservative Democrat disagrees with a liberal Democrat, they are still Democrats. DU rules say "a place for Democrats" all Dems in the big tent are welcome. You seem to have a problem with that. There are some very liberal gun owners go comment only here because they feel they have nothing to add any place else because of lack of knowledge on the subject or "me too". I don't do "me too" posts.
As for legislate victories, if I agree with it, I don't care who it comes from. If I disagree with it, I don't care who it comes from. If a conservative Democrat is against single payer, I disagree with him (I seem to recall those). If a Log Cabin Republican is for marriage equality, I agree with him just as I would any liberal Dem that would join him.
I support the Democratic Party and and vote Democratic because that is the party that currently shares most of my values and pushes an agenda I agree with. The party platform does not shape my views.
When it comes to sources, my rule is very basic. Is the information correct? If the information is correct, but bitch about the source, It is a genetic fallacy.
I hold my side to the same standards, if not a higher standard, as I would the other or neutral sources. If some blogger at Think Progress writes about buying machine guns at Wal Mart or the "wild west" nonsense, I'm going to correct it. If Faux can't tell the difference between a Hawaii birth certificate and one from a British Colony, I bust a gut laughing my ass off.
If I disagree, I disagree. I don't like ditto heads on the right, and I refuse to be one on the left. Rachel Maddow has a different view on guns than I do, but it has nothing to do with left/right. It also does not mean that either of us should conform to the other to be a true progressive.
And like I said, not all pro-gunners are trolls. But let's not pretend that there aren't a good number of (sometimes pretty obvious) trolls.
There are some. They tend to get weeded out pretty fast.
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There's a bunch of similar posters who never seem to post except in this forum...
rfranklin
Apr 2012
#6
I assume you want to saw off the barrel of the shotgun to make it handier for self defense.
Johnny Rico
Apr 2012
#8