Gun Control & RKBA

DissedByBush

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25. Normally not

Fri Dec 23, 2011, 11:00 AM

Dec 2011

Most of what you want is rights-killing restrictions on legal gun ownership, often hidden behind a mask of "reasonable regulation."

What we're talking about here is actual illegal USE of a gun, which we agree should be punished.

You normally talk about putting onerous restrictions on the mere acquisition or possession of a gun due to a potential for misuse.

I don't believe in restricting the rights of people due to potential. I don't support licensing printing presses because somebody may use one to threaten the President. I support arresting those who actually do. I didn't support the War On Drugs policy of limiting and tracking purchases of pseudoephedrine because some people use it to make meth. I support arresting those who actually do.

This idea of putting a heavy burden on, and invading the privacy of, hundreds of millions in order to catch the few criminals is entirely against my view of a free country.

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Houston Police: Celebratory gunfire against the law [View all] ellisonz Dec 2011 OP

What goes Up, must come Down... BiggJawn Dec 2011 #1

I have done the same TupperHappy Dec 2011 #24

I had a boot pistol that'd shoot a Black Cat about 40 feet in the air. BiggJawn Dec 2011 #57

As it should be. However, a question... krispos42 Dec 2011 #2

yes, those are safe to fire... however they will not cycle a semiauto. OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2011 #13

People who fire guns into the air are ignorant.. MicaelS Dec 2011 #3

#5 Never catch a dropped gun! Logical Dec 2011 #4

This was once very common in Detroit on New Year's JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2011 #5

According to... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2011 #9

Falling bullets are actually more dangerous on average.... ellisonz Dec 2011 #10

The problem is ballistics. krispos42 Dec 2011 #16

The obvious solution is to address the minority of the population that engages in this illegal act. Remmah2 Dec 2011 #26

How would you do that? ellisonz Dec 2011 #30

Education and... We_Have_A_Problem Dec 2011 #33

Sorry, all our police are too busy on New Year's Eve JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2011 #94

Legalize fireworks where they are now banned (Houston) might help. nt SteveW Dec 2011 #99

Shotguns with bird bombs during July 4th. aikoaiko Dec 2011 #6

If you live in a city, shooting blanks might be illegal, too. JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2011 #95

Yes, I bet most city limit statutes about firing a gun don't exempt blanks aikoaiko Dec 2011 #101

We generally shoot my neighbors 4 poundef Napolean. oneshooter Dec 2011 #7

You get to have entirely too much fun DissedByBush Dec 2011 #55

Yea I know! Just go ahead and hate me for it!!!! n/t oneshooter Dec 2011 #97

Hatred initiated, and continuing n/t DissedByBush Dec 2011 #102

Never done it. Completely against it. GreenStormCloud Dec 2011 #8

"Happy fire", is what it's called in Iraq/Afghanistan/Pakistan. PavePusher Dec 2011 #28

Pretty dumb practice as the guy in Ohio who killed the Amish girl found out Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #11

Some report that the shooter was Amish as well one-eyed fat man Dec 2011 #21

And unless his rifle is stuck in the 18th Century too DissedByBush Dec 2011 #27

A round lead ball one-eyed fat man Dec 2011 #29

Never, and wouldn't under any circumstance. AtheistCrusader Dec 2011 #12

three good quesions gejohnston Dec 2011 #14

Look out for ice in hell, we're starting to agree DissedByBush Dec 2011 #15

Like I've said... ellisonz Dec 2011 #17

"...and others have noted. I'm a reasonable guy. " Remmah2 Dec 2011 #20

Better arrogant... ellisonz Dec 2011 #31

And better informed We_Have_A_Problem Dec 2011 #32

Arrogance is camouflage for ignorance. nt Remmah2 Dec 2011 #104

Normally not DissedByBush Dec 2011 #25

"Few Criminals" ellisonz Dec 2011 #34

So you are also in favor of Prohibition 2.0? PavePusher Dec 2011 #35

I see we have a War On Drugs proponent here DissedByBush Dec 2011 #37

War on Drugs proponent? ellisonz Dec 2011 #38

That was part of the war on drugs DissedByBush Dec 2011 #43

Oh...the old unitary War on Drugs view. ellisonz Dec 2011 #45

Cherry picked? DissedByBush Dec 2011 #46

What does the first case have to do with the totality? ellisonz Dec 2011 #49

Pick your source DissedByBush Dec 2011 #53

"I'm sure you'll attempt a distraction by complaining about any source I supply." ellisonz Dec 2011 #64

How about we go after the meth labs? DissedByBush Dec 2011 #69

How about choking off the source? ellisonz Dec 2011 #74

Oh, so just pushing a War on Some Drugs then. PavePusher Dec 2011 #50

Red-herring. ellisonz Dec 2011 #51

I'm defending the ability to get as much medicine as needed when needed DissedByBush Dec 2011 #52

That's ridiculous. ellisonz Dec 2011 #63

I know how dangerous home meth production can be DissedByBush Dec 2011 #65

You seem to have never looked meth addiction in the face. ellisonz Dec 2011 #67

I had a friend who did meth every weekend DissedByBush Dec 2011 #70

"I had a friend who did meth every weekend, it was a hell of a party." ellisonz Dec 2011 #73

For the record, I promote legalizing non-prescription, over-the-counter sale of all drugs... PavePusher Dec 2011 #56

So which "other substances" do you include in your magnanimous "legalization" suggestion? Fair Witness Dec 2011 #58

No the list does not vary from day to day. ellisonz Dec 2011 #62

Yes, I am for legalizing "everything" in the context of this discussion. Fair Witness Dec 2011 #75

Jamaica (a small island south of Cuba in the Caribbean) has total gun "control" (a ban) and is Fair Witness Dec 2011 #39

Jamaica is desparately poor... ellisonz Dec 2011 #40

and? gejohnston Dec 2011 #41

You're going to make a comparison... ellisonz Dec 2011 #42

That wasn't your criteria, quit switching around DissedByBush Dec 2011 #44

How do criminals get their guns? ellisonz Dec 2011 #48

Where do they get them DissedByBush Dec 2011 #54

"One of the main reasons street meth is so dangerous is because it is illegal." ellisonz Dec 2011 #61

That was your criteria DissedByBush Dec 2011 #66

Wrong. ellisonz Dec 2011 #68

Yes you have DissedByBush Dec 2011 #71

I misread you. ellisonz Dec 2011 #72

You stated the criteria DissedByBush Dec 2011 #92

So how were you dissed by bush? n/t ellisonz Dec 2011 #93

Avoiding the subject I see DissedByBush Dec 2011 #96

you are comparing gejohnston Dec 2011 #47

Your whole post is not accurate. ellisonz Dec 2011 #78

so explain gejohnston Dec 2011 #83

Blah blah blah... ellisonz Dec 2011 #88

bottom line gejohnston Dec 2011 #89

If anyone should be able to control their borders one-eyed fat man Dec 2011 #77

Jamaica is not by any means in the middle of nowhere. ellisonz Dec 2011 #79

well, what do you know about that? one-eyed fat man Dec 2011 #80

"can just as easily supply you with a gun." ellisonz Dec 2011 #81

and they are innacurate gejohnston Dec 2011 #84

If you've ever sat through the flight there AtheistCrusader Dec 2011 #91

You really don't have the first clue, do you? Fair Witness Dec 2011 #59

Well excuse me for knowing something about the political-economy of Jamaica... ellisonz Dec 2011 #60

Government prohibition on various drugs is a market distortion that created meth. AtheistCrusader Dec 2011 #90

What other current/past prohibition policies do you adhere to?... SteveW Dec 2011 #100

Answers rl6214 Dec 2011 #18