Gun Control & RKBA

Starboard Tack

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85. Why do you think someone is obligated to provide security?

Fri Dec 23, 2011, 07:46 PM

Dec 2011

I'd love to see your research on that one. If you come to my home, I will shake your hand, you will not be entering with a gun and there will be no guns already present. Beyond that, you're gonna have to take the same risks most people take every day. I know, we're a bunch of crazy risk takers, breezing our way through life,

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MISSISSIPPI: Concealed Carry on college, in bars, and in courthouse is LEGAL. [View all] GreenStormCloud Dec 2011 OP

Good. n/t PavePusher Dec 2011 #1

Wonder how long.... We_Have_A_Problem Dec 2011 #2

There are some 70 colleges that allowed it without a problem before now. oneshooter Dec 2011 #3

I know that... We_Have_A_Problem Dec 2011 #4

I notice not everyone is supportive Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #5

Stop the distortions. PavePusher Dec 2011 #6

So, are you saying it's OK to ask if they think there is potential danger Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #7

And they don't need to ask. PavePusher Dec 2011 #10

A physicians first responsibility... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2011 #32

Why shouldn't the question be allowed? Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #40

I'm pretty sure this has been answered... We_Have_A_Problem Dec 2011 #41

Really? Doesn't sound very professional. Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #45

No argument. We_Have_A_Problem Dec 2011 #47

Damn. We agree again. Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #55

I'm happy to see... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2011 #58

I have no problem with rednecks Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #107

Have a great week... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2011 #110

Hey, you too and let's hope for a better 2012 Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #112

Did you actually read post #10? n/t PavePusher Dec 2011 #59

Yes Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #63

Interesting............. Simo 1939_1940 Dec 2011 #11

And the earth hasn't melted yet from global warming. Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #15

Yes - it is quite backward of you to disregard the fact that there have been **ZERO** Simo 1939_1940 Dec 2011 #101

How do you measure negative effects? Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #106

"How do you measure negative effects?" Simo 1939_1940 Dec 2011 #113

I dont care if he's supportive or not We_Have_A_Problem Dec 2011 #12

Right we certainly don't want the chief of police to speak his mind Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #13

He's more than welcome to speak his mind all he wants.... We_Have_A_Problem Dec 2011 #14

Nonsense. Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #16

No, not nonsense. We_Have_A_Problem Dec 2011 #18

I would never defend carrying guns in classrooms, unless they were gun classes. Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #31

You are free to defend what you wish We_Have_A_Problem Dec 2011 #34

As a group, police chiefs have a poor record on guns. ManiacJoe Dec 2011 #26

Of course, what would they know about guns and crime? Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #29

You seem to be confusing the chiefs with the patrolmen. ManiacJoe Dec 2011 #33

Not at all. What makes you say that? Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #43

The police chief We_Have_A_Problem Dec 2011 #46

everywhere I have been gejohnston Dec 2011 #49

I'm not a fan of publicly elected law enforcement in general Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #51

town police chief is not the sheriff. gejohnston Dec 2011 #53

Yes I no the difference Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #54

Going by the evidence that has been posted on D.U. over the years.... PavePusher Dec 2011 #60

Definitely has in the past Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #62

Jody Weiss, ring a bell? one-eyed fat man Dec 2011 #92

unintentional duplicate nt one-eyed fat man Dec 2011 #93

Don't know where you live.... We_Have_A_Problem Dec 2011 #35

It's not all about stopping crime. Cops can only do so much Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #38

They are still not fast enough to do a damn thing except take a report and call the meat wagon. We_Have_A_Problem Dec 2011 #39

And what happens when the professionals (1)aren't there, or are (2)incompetent? friendly_iconoclast Dec 2011 #42

"I just don't like...." krispos42 Dec 2011 #64

Regulating speech in the conduct of a licensed profession DissedByBush Dec 2011 #66

Really? Licensed professionals have limited 1A rights? Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #69

Yes and no We_Have_A_Problem Dec 2011 #70

Can a lawyer tell a presiding judge to go screw himself? DissedByBush Dec 2011 #72

Sure he can We_Have_A_Problem Dec 2011 #73

So what does the 2nd amendment take a back seat to? Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #79

About the same things other rights do We_Have_A_Problem Dec 2011 #80

Why do you think someone is obligated to provide security? Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #85

If you are a prison guard DissedByBush Dec 2011 #82

Thank you. Excellent. Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #84

I can certainly understand your house gejohnston Dec 2011 #87

LOL Yep, boats and guns don't go well together Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #88

What's wrong with legally carried firearms on planes? n/t PavePusher Dec 2011 #89

Something to do with pressurized cabins I think. Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #90

You watch to many stupid movies one-eyed fat man Dec 2011 #94

Phew! Thank God and airplane designers for that. Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #97

Well, I have 21+ years of military aviation maintenance experience.... PavePusher Dec 2011 #100

Good to know. Let's tell th TSA Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #102

Selling fear. It's what government seems to do best. We need to change that. n/t PavePusher Dec 2011 #104

Damn right. But it's not just governments who sell fear. Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #105

The TSA is theater one-eyed fat man Dec 2011 #111

About those doctors in FL, I'm more concerned about the patients who are denied medical services... aikoaiko Dec 2011 #98

I agree. Now doctors might be afraid to ask a legitimate question. Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #99

I think that law has been or will be thrown out. aikoaiko Dec 2011 #114

Hooray for freedom rl6214 Dec 2011 #8

Sounds reasonable to me. I favor shall-issue CCW with a comprehensive training petronius Dec 2011 #9

You think bars are good places for guns? Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #17

If the person carrying is not drinking.... We_Have_A_Problem Dec 2011 #19

If and fail in the same sentence? Oh dear Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #27

Ironic you would quote Kipling at me..... We_Have_A_Problem Dec 2011 #36

No different than other places. OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2011 #20

I guess there are bars and then there are bars. Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #24

The CCW laws I've seen DissedByBush Dec 2011 #67

As others have said, I would bar drinking (perhaps just intoxication) while carrying, petronius Dec 2011 #21

Sounds good, at least in theory. Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #22

Can you point to anywhere it's been a statistically significant problem? PavePusher Dec 2011 #23

Ah, yes "statistically significant". Where have I seen that before? Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #25

Some people do not understand statistics. ManiacJoe Dec 2011 #28

So, I guess there isn't a problem. Good to know. n/t PavePusher Dec 2011 #61

The phrase "Statistical Significance" actually has a defined meaning... OneTenthofOnePercent Dec 2011 #65

Dead poets are statistically significant Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #68

Do a little research here, you'll find somewhat more than "evil eye preventative" use. friendly_iconoclast Dec 2011 #74

The bottom line is this ST We_Have_A_Problem Dec 2011 #75

"Carrying a firearm may not help, but it does not harm anyone." Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #77

That's right - unless it is MIS-used. We_Have_A_Problem Dec 2011 #81

You make some interesting points Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #86

I guess it would depend what kind of crime Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #91

Big Mistake There ellisonz Dec 2011 #95

Recently I asked 19 random senior citizens about that. GreenStormCloud Dec 2011 #103

Better than the opposite mix though, right? petronius Dec 2011 #50

Hard to imagine either, actually. Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #52

Well, like I've said, I have no difficulty imagining a sober CCWer sitting in a bar petronius Dec 2011 #56

I wouldn't have a problem either Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #57

Bars = any restaruant that serves alcohol. Atypical Liberal Dec 2011 #30

I like the Texas remedy for that. If a establishment makes 51% or more oneshooter Dec 2011 #37

Makes sense to me. Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #44

We kinda thought it made sense too... We_Have_A_Problem Dec 2011 #48

Why are you so down on Texas? Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #78

Oh great, grab your guns and confederate flags and have a party. Hoyt Dec 2011 #71

*Your* state, Georgia, has a similar law. I take it you don't eat out? friendly_iconoclast Dec 2011 #76

I eat out. Like laughing at guys with confederate flags on their cars and guns in their pockets. Hoyt Dec 2011 #83

So what generally happens when you call the cops on them, or try to detain them? friendly_iconoclast Dec 2011 #96

If the guns are in pockets, how do you know? Are you giving everyone pat-downs? n/t PavePusher Dec 2011 #108

He's laughing nervously from his gun paranoia. Pacafishmate Dec 2011 #109