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In reply to the discussion: Guns, Carried Openly or Concealed, Threaten Our Safety [View all]GreenStormCloud
(12,072 posts)3. That 402 includes 100 pure suicides.
Over 50 people who killed only themselves, many of whom didn't use a gun but used other means, are included in that tally. Do you really think that a person who ODs on sleeping pills would not have done it if he had not had a CCW?
From the VPC web site: http://www.vpc.org/fact_sht/ccwtotalkilled.pdf
Michigan
# Concealed Handgun Permit Holder: Name Not Provided
SUICIDE
Date: Between July 1, 2009 and June 30, 2010
People Killed: 43
Circumstances: Between July 1, 2009 and June 30, 2010, Michigan State Police report
that 43 Michigan concealed handgun permit holders took their own lives. In their annual
report, the Michigan State Police do not release the victims name, the exact date of the
suicide, nor the type of weapon used in the suicide.
Source: Concealed Pistol Licensure Annual Report, July 1, 2009June 30, 2010, Michigan State Police,
http://www.michigan.gov/documents/msp/2009-10_CPL_Annual_Report_343621_7.pdf.
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Michigan
# Concealed Handgun Permit Holder: Name Not Provided
SUICIDE
Date: Between July 1, 2008 and June 30, 2009
People Killed: 28
Circumstances: Between July 1, 2008 and June 30, 2009, Michigan State Police report
that 28 Michigan concealed handgun permit holders took their own lives. In their annual
report, the Michigan State Police do not release the victims name, the exact date of the
suicide, nor the type of weapon used in the suicide.
Source: Concealed Pistol Licensing Annual Report, Statewide Totals, General Information, July 1,
2008June 30, 2009, Michigan State Police,
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Michigan
# Concealed Handgun Permit Holder: Name Not Provided
SUICIDE
Date: Between July 1, 2007 and June 30, 2008
People Killed: 29
Circumstances: Between July 1, 2007 and June 30, 2008, Michigan State Police report
that 29 Michigan concealed handgun permit holders took their own lives. In their annual
report, the Michigan State Police do not release the victims name, the exact date of the
suicide, nor the type of weapon used in the suicide.
Source: Concealed Pistol Licensing Annual Report, Statewide Totals, General Information, July 1,
2007June 30, 2008, Michigan State Police,
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48+28+23=100 So 100 of VPC's 402 "kills" are pure sucides. That is about 25% of their total. There are other ways the VPC pads their numbers but that is the most glaring. Many of the other numbers counted as kills are also suicides.
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"the murder itself would be extremely unlikely to have been committed absent a firearm"
rl6214
Apr 2012
#29
And you have proof that the " facts and figures" put put by the RCMP are reliable?
oneshooter
Apr 2012
#81
Sorry - didn't realize you supported the public ownership of handguns and other weapons. Sorry. nt
hack89
Apr 2012
#101
So the "actual rate of death and injury" due to drunk drivers is low enough to be acceptable
hack89
Apr 2012
#114
So it is not about facts or evidence but simply "feelings"? At least you are honest about it. nt
hack89
Apr 2012
#116
In many areas LE is required to be armed. They are actually considered to be "on duty" 24-7.
oneshooter
Apr 2012
#39
Well good for you. If you don't want a question answered, then don't ask it.
oneshooter
Apr 2012
#50
In the US federal law mandates that they be allowed to carry at all times.
AtheistCrusader
Apr 2012
#95