Gun Control & RKBA

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10. The rest wouldn't have interested you anyhow ...

Mon Dec 26, 2011, 10:03 PM

Dec 2011

The crime rate is rising in the U.K. and dropping in the United States.

The Brits call it an ‘austerity crimewave’. They attribute the rise in crime to the loss of jobs and benefits.

Times are also tough here in the United States but we must be doing something right as our crime rate has dropped significantly over the last 4 1/2 years.

Oddly enough the sale of firearms have skyrocketed in our nation during that period of time but of course that couldn't have anything to do with the drop in crime. It's just one of those odd coincidences and it only proves that more guns does not equal more crime.

One of the articles mentions that street muggings in London have jumped 15% compared to last year. We probably don't see as many of those in the U.S. as the bad guys are terrified that they just might run into one of those paranoid individuals who can't leave their house without a couple of guns strapped to their body.

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Indian student murdered in Salford street attack (in UK, unprovoked attack) [View all] alp227 Dec 2011 OP

Doesn't happen often. Brits don't want guns. No NRA blowing smoke. People live without them. Hoyt Dec 2011 #1

What are your thoughts on Weaver? n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2011 #2

Oh ghod, no..... PavePusher Dec 2011 #4

So, what are your thoughts on Weaver? n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2011 #5

Weaver was a racist fuck, who sold illegal guns and had the intellect of a hog. Hoyt Dec 2011 #8

Well he did make some rather dumb decisions.... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2011 #11

At the very least. Hoyt Dec 2011 #13

Racist right, the rest... DissedByBush Dec 2011 #16

Thank God for ATF plants at Aryan Nation get-togethers. Weaver and anyone like him is a terrorist. Hoyt Dec 2011 #17

unfortunately gejohnston Dec 2011 #18

I suppose you've never fucked up. I hope they keep the pressure on the Weaver type gunners. Hoyt Dec 2011 #23

"By any means necessary?" nt SteveW Dec 2011 #30

You would hope DissedByBush Dec 2011 #19

'Entrapment?" -- ATF approaches Weaver at racist Ayran Nation meeting and Weaver agrees to supply Hoyt Dec 2011 #24

Timmy McVeigh... ellisonz Dec 2011 #27

Gun culture will be defending Koresh shortly. Even though he had 51 days to surrender after killing Hoyt Dec 2011 #28

They just don't care about the rest of us... ellisonz Dec 2011 #38

Hmm, this sounds a lot like Union Scribe Dec 2011 #58

Coulda sworn he was a product of Big Ag Products Culture. nt SteveW Dec 2011 #31

You think that's a funny remark? nt ellisonz Dec 2011 #35

Gotcha! nt SteveW Dec 2011 #41

It's a stupid, denialist remark. ellisonz Dec 2011 #42

Right on target, buddy. You seem up on Timmy McVeigh and his fans... SteveW Dec 2011 #43

It's not hard to find links. ellisonz Dec 2011 #44

A common enough catch-all cite from SPL? Old stuff. nt SteveW Dec 2011 #46

2009? Old. ellisonz Dec 2011 #47

It's old. And a re-hash at that. nt SteveW Dec 2011 #50

It's unfair to mention the fact he didn't use guns for his terrorism. friendly_iconoclast Dec 2011 #36

Shall we start listing all those gun culture fans.... ellisonz Dec 2011 #39

Why not? We could also point out that they use computers to communicate with each other. friendly_iconoclast Dec 2011 #51

Product of the agricultural fertilizer culture you mean? hack89 Jan 2012 #83

"Timmy McVeigh never shot a person in his life." ellisonz Jan 2012 #87

Can we blame "the gun culture" for the Weather Underground as well? friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #88

No. ellisonz Jan 2012 #89

Why not? Note how many terrorist attacks happened in 'civilized' Europe before WW1 friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #90

I have been immersed for 30 years and I am still a progressive democrat hack89 Jan 2012 #92

Over three years DissedByBush Dec 2011 #54

Who said Weaver, a racist -- living in a compound -- would not normally do that? LMAO Hoyt Dec 2011 #33

Since when is a cabin in the woods with a small storage shed a "compound"? beevul Dec 2011 #64

Do you think Aryan Nation/terrorists are deserving of due process? nt SteveW Dec 2011 #29

Yes, even though they don't give due process and Weaver was supplier of executioner's weapon. Hoyt Dec 2011 #55

What "executioner's weapon" was that? Short-barrelled shotguns are legal. friendly_iconoclast Dec 2011 #56

And that missed court date was because DissedByBush Dec 2011 #57

"Well, in all this horse manure there must be a pony...." SteveW Dec 2011 #59

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I guess you can't see difference between a member of Ayran Nation (Weaver) and political opinion? Hoyt Dec 2011 #25

Wrong rl6214 Dec 2011 #60

Weaver didn't belong to "aryan nation". beevul Dec 2011 #65

By golly if you go to Ayran Nation "events", you are a member, sympathizer, racist, and worse. Hoyt Dec 2011 #66

I know, Weaver is one of the upstanding gun owners the "gun culture" likes to tout. Hoyt Dec 2011 #67

If only someone had said that. beevul Dec 2011 #70

"Doesn't happen often" rrneck Dec 2011 #3

Home invasions are common in the U.K. spin Dec 2011 #6

Didn't read past "insulate yourself from its underclass" BS. Sounds like British TBaggery to me. Hoyt Dec 2011 #9

The rest wouldn't have interested you anyhow ... spin Dec 2011 #10

more like 1 percenterbaggery to me gejohnston Dec 2011 #12

Sounds to me like you are obssessed with tbagging rl6214 Dec 2011 #22

I drop by here to alert on a post and I find this iverglas Jan 2012 #77

Well, did you get that post alerted on? n/t oneshooter Jan 2012 #78

If so, nothing came of it. Nothing's been hidden since January 2 n/t friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #81

post 21 iverglas Jan 2012 #82

I stand corrected. Congratulations on another gun control victory. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #84

no, really, congratulations on another misrepresentation iverglas Jan 2012 #85

Yes. Straw Man Jan 2012 #91

Hey, we put up with Michael Bloomberg fans. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #80

Unfortuiantely I don't have a list of all the witers who have views oppose yours... spin Jan 2012 #93

well, you need to make some time iverglas Jan 2012 #94

. krispos42 Dec 2011 #14

any chance you're going to update that thing? iverglas Jan 2012 #79

"brits don't want guns. " and you know this how? rl6214 Dec 2011 #20

Gunner = short for member of "gun culture" = euphemism for "guns on the brain" and in waistband to Hoyt Dec 2011 #32

Made up term by bigots that live in fear rl6214 Dec 2011 #61

Fear in this context = having to strap a gun or two on before venturing out in public. Hoyt Dec 2011 #68

I think the only strap on here is by you rl6214 Dec 2011 #69

The Swiss? You mean the Swiss who have more than two million guns in their homes? TheWraith Jan 2012 #86

Everyone in the UK knows that guns kill people...danger danger gunz are bad! The UK needs a gun ban. ileus Dec 2011 #7

The UK needs to ban slim white guys in their 20's. Glassunion Dec 2011 #15

Whew! That leaves this old fat-gutted Cracker out of the loop! nt SteveW Dec 2011 #34

Could be English Defence League fucks... ellisonz Dec 2011 #26

Do you think there should be political tests for gun ownership? friendly_iconoclast Dec 2011 #37

I think there should be an interview to determine... ellisonz Dec 2011 #40

Who wrote that quote from Heller? nt SteveW Dec 2011 #45

Gun rights activists. n/t ellisonz Dec 2011 #48

And you agree with that statement? SteveW Dec 2011 #49

Apparently Scalia's opinions are abhorrent- unless he agrees with them.... friendly_iconoclast Dec 2011 #52

Yeah, play bull-in-the-ring enough & you lose track of your own direction. nt SteveW Dec 2011 #75

"It's way past 4:20." ellisonz Dec 2011 #63

Oh, fiddle-d-dee. nt SteveW Dec 2011 #74

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This message was self-deleted by its author friendly_iconoclast Dec 2011 #53

Should there also be interviews before exercising any other rights? n/t oneshooter Dec 2011 #72

How would you see it done? Glassunion Dec 2011 #73

Yeah, that handgun ban really works for them, don't it? BiggJawn Dec 2011 #62

Thats not what its about man. beevul Dec 2011 #71