Baths kill more Japanese then guns kill Americans

[DanTex]

119. You're wrong. Mostly.

I'm not interested in legality or "intention". I'm interested in the harm to society. As a whole, guns take a huge toll on society, significantly more than drunk driving. The reason I brought up the analogy was because everyone agrees that drunk driving takes a huge toll on society, but some people are in denial about the damage from guns, which is three times greater in terms of lives lost.

I'm not trying to show that "responsible" gun owners and "responsible" drunk drivers are identical in all ways. I'm really just pointing out that, in both cases, not all people who engage in the risky activity are equally responsible for the harm. There are "responsible" gun owners and "responsible" drunk drivers. But from the point of view of public safety, the existence of "responsible" gun owners/drunk drivers doesn't mitigate the need for regulations in order to mitigate the enormous amount of harm to society collectively by people who partake in gun ownership/drunk driving.

And then there's the problem with the definition of "responsible gun owner". Pro-gunners tend to define this retrospectively: the people who shoot others or themselves are "irresponsible", so by definition "responsible" gun owners don't do any harm. Of course, the problem with this is that you can't tell apart the responsible from the irresponsible ahead of time.

If your idea of "a little fun" is calling people "dumb," I think you need to calibrate your pleasure meter.

LOL. Coming from you. Please.