Gun Control & RKBA

GreenStormCloud

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12. No extra restrictions on public carry needed.

Tue May 22, 2012, 03:06 PM

May 2012

So they recommend: heightened restrictions on the carrying of loaded guns in public;

In Texas in 2009 there were over 400K people with CHLs and only one (1) murder conviction of a person who had a CHL at the time of the crime. Some years there are two convictions, some years there are none. Most years there is only one. Therefore there is very little danger to the public from legal concealed carry.

BTW - In those murders we don't know if having a CHL aided in the commission of the crime. We don't even know if a gun was used.

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Gun Deaths Outpace Motor Vehicle Deaths in 10 States [View all] SecularMotion May 2012 OP

subtract the suicides gejohnston May 2012 #1

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Callisto32 May 2012 #5

And the phrase "pick your overpass" Glaug-Eldare May 2012 #6

There are some creative types... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #23

Alright, I'm stumped. PavePusher May 2012 #24

According to... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #25

Europe, despite claims to be so civilized... PavePusher May 2012 #26

I saw a special on TV... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #27

I certainly don't consider myself a CT enthusiast.... PavePusher May 2012 #29

They certainly... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #30

A majority of the gun deaths are suicide. DesMoinesDem May 2012 #7

Not strictly true Starboard Tack May 2012 #20

also not strictly true gejohnston May 2012 #21

So the generally lawful... discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #28

SUVs kill people. ileus May 2012 #2

Don't you mean 'people'? Scribejohn May 2012 #60

The VPC? You need to find a better source. ManiacJoe May 2012 #3

"Motor Vehicle Deaths Outpace Gun Deaths in 40 States" Glaug-Eldare May 2012 #4

none of their recomendations address the issue gejohnston May 2012 #8

We just need more guns! bongbong May 2012 #9

There's those "gun-religionists" of yours again... friendly_iconoclast May 2012 #31

Gun religionists bongbong May 2012 #33

Never been to one Glaug-Eldare May 2012 #34

Contact the NRA bongbong May 2012 #35

I already checked. The NRA only holds one meeting a year DonP May 2012 #37

It seems our interlocutor has found the website of The Elders of The National Rifle Association... friendly_iconoclast May 2012 #38

Meetings bongbong May 2012 #44

Still waiting for you to post a link to a definition for your BS term "gun-religionists"... rl6214 May 2012 #42

Makes lots of sense bongbong May 2012 #43

Been to many/ANY NRA conventions? rl6214 May 2012 #46

D'OH! bongbong May 2012 #47

Are you really talking about conventions? Glaug-Eldare May 2012 #48

You could try reading my posts... bongbong May 2012 #51

There's no love lost between me and NRA Glaug-Eldare May 2012 #52

"I'm not sure where you're goin'." rl6214 May 2012 #55

Reading your posts doesn't help Union Scribe May 2012 #58

LOL bongbong May 2012 #62

Yeah, this is what I'm talking about. Union Scribe May 2012 #63

"So you're saying that the NRA doesn't have meetings - that you aren't invited to - of it many rich rl6214 May 2012 #54

Maybe I should point out that suicides fall under the category of deaths. Starboard Tack May 2012 #10

I wonder how those CO suicides are counted petronius May 2012 #14

Poisoning. nt. Starboard Tack May 2012 #19

As they should. Guns are supposed to kill people. qb May 2012 #11

No extra restrictions on public carry needed. GreenStormCloud May 2012 #12

VPC "study".... Clames May 2012 #13

What? discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2012 #32

I believe that justifiable homicides by civilians are included in the deaths caused by firearms. spin May 2012 #15

I find this interesting gejohnston May 2012 #16

I would imagine that if they ever succeed in their goal of prohibiting firearm ownership ... spin May 2012 #22

That, or they were traumatized by Robin Hood movies as children... friendly_iconoclast May 2012 #39

That's excellent news! slackmaster May 2012 #17

It's also possible to commit murder & suicide w/a car. Remmah2 May 2012 #36

Another thought occurred to me this morning - All vehicle-related deaths are needless and tragic slackmaster May 2012 #40

VPC vs Faux News Spoonman May 2012 #18

And you are using the VPC as a 'source'? rl6214 May 2012 #41

VPC outofstep May 2012 #45

People are driving less. GreenStormCloud May 2012 #49

The gun accident rate is far lower than the car accident rate in all 50 states. GreenStormCloud May 2012 #50

I seeked and found gejohnston May 2012 #53

There are a few "anti" comments at HuffPo if you dive deeply- but they're not faring well... friendly_iconoclast May 2012 #56

OK, let me rephrase it gejohnston May 2012 #57

Interesting figures. DanTex May 2012 #59

Not likely, for 2 reasons- 1. The # of gun deaths is declining (and always was lower than MV deaths) friendly_iconoclast May 2012 #64

Bad driving or bad shots? Scribejohn May 2012 #61

Those are the ten states where people know how to drive... friendly_iconoclast May 2012 #65