Gun Control & RKBA

Simo 1939_1940

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128. What GSC said, and I'll add that while you describe your experience as anecdotal

Sun May 27, 2012, 11:01 AM

May 2012

one would think that if there were any actual problems associated with firearms in the homes of persons with dementia - you would be an individual in a position to know about it.

I started taking care of my Dad in '99 when he developed dementia - one of his neighbors called me reporting odd behavior. One of the first questions the neighbor asked was whether or not there were guns in the house - entirely reasonable. He wanted to be assured that he and his wife were safe in trying to assist my father while I was making arrangements for his care. (I informed him that there were no guns in the house -- save my old boyhood .22 rifle in the rafters of the garage.)

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The VA Tells the Truth About Guns. The NRA Can't Handle It. [View all] ellisonz May 2012 OP

Just like the V.A. to try to remove the #1 choice for suicide for men. HereSince1628 May 2012 #1

Damn our public health professionals! ellisonz May 2012 #2

Seriously11! What wer thay thinkn?????? HereSince1628 May 2012 #3

Angry, demented old men is the NRA's primary market. denverbill May 2012 #4

Ouch! So true though. Pretty fucked up world we live in. Starboard Tack May 2012 #6

The NRA will defend possession of firearms for certifiable mental cases randr May 2012 #5

yet refuse to allow pot users their 2nd Amendment Rights. gejohnston May 2012 #7

When did the NRA say anything on the subject? randr May 2012 #41

why should they? gejohnston May 2012 #43

Kinda goes against the ethos in Vietnam Scribejohn May 2012 #106

Crickets bongbong May 2012 #8

"Gun-religionists?" eqfan592 May 2012 #68

LOL bongbong May 2012 #77

Faith to do what? ManiacJoe May 2012 #78

Anything bongbong May 2012 #82

You do know that faith and worship are not the same thing, right? ManiacJoe May 2012 #84

I don't hate being called it. I simply think it's completely idiotic. :P eqfan592 May 2012 #86

Religion bongbong May 2012 #89

"Try to substitute rationality for blind faith & you'll be further ahead" eqfan592 May 2012 #90

So what are YOU substituting for rationality? cleanhippie May 2012 #131

wonder how well you would do in other forums if you went in and called out Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #100

That's because women's rights and LGBT equality are important causes... DanTex May 2012 #101

note: Iverglass. Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #102

Was there point in there somewhere? DanTex May 2012 #104

about as much point as your post. Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #105

LOL. Nice One! I was just thinking how much I missed being in third grade... DanTex May 2012 #108

and you were standing in the mirror when you thought it. -- Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #109

A lot of stuff is tolerated in the gungeon that wouldn't be elsewhere. DanTex May 2012 #110

have at it -- Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #111

Faux outrage by you... DanTex May 2012 #112

oh dear -- Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #113

That's not a link to you calling out a fellow pro-gunner's personal insults. DanTex May 2012 #114

wrong. Show me where a 2A supporter is the first to throw out the insult. Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #115

Don't play dumb. DanTex May 2012 #116

3 links.... as opposed to the hundreds of times that it is started by Antis, OK. got it. -- Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #117

Those 3 links were to google searches. Many more than three links in there... DanTex May 2012 #118

to me as a woman. you don't see the insults because you don't want to see them Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #119

This has nothing to do with you "as a woman". DanTex May 2012 #122

Anti's attitude and tone in this group is demeaning. terms like Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #123

Yeah, that makes no sense at all. DanTex May 2012 #124

have one your own self Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #125

and have another one Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #126

LOL. You think calling gungeon dwellers "cowboys" is an over-the-line insult? DanTex May 2012 #133

simply removing the word spinster gejohnston May 2012 #134

is DanTex getting us confused or what? I never said anything like that about Iver. Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #138

you still do not understand because you are NOT a female. --- how about I call you Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #135

Ignored my question. I'll ask again. DanTex May 2012 #136

I never called Iverglass a bitter spinster. good lord! Yes. Yes. and HELL NO to answer your Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #137

Thank you. One more thing. DanTex May 2012 #139

sorry, I meant the collective Your (as in Your Side)... Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #140

Thank you. DanTex May 2012 #141

LOL bongbong May 2012 #120

then, by all means YOU go into those groups and YOU call them Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #121

I wonder if he was allowed to drive. Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #9

Don't think the NRA needs to be defended DonP May 2012 #10

Conservative funding will do that! bongbong May 2012 #13

ALEC is not a slush fund, it is a gejohnston May 2012 #14

A rose by any other name bongbong May 2012 #76

Anti-Democracy? GreenStormCloud May 2012 #80

Nope bongbong May 2012 #83

Sure they do DonP May 2012 #33

LOL bongbong May 2012 #75

Tell us again how the so called "gun religionists" are keeping the Brady bunch and the joyce rl6214 May 2012 #99

Yeah, academics and well-trained profressionals don't know anything! ellisonz May 2012 #16

interesting...... gejohnston May 2012 #17

What I really love about the NRA Statement... ellisonz May 2012 #18

Gary Kleck is not the only one gejohnston May 2012 #23

Breathe 100% nitrogen. Fast, painless, and no mess. GreenStormCloud May 2012 #27

"they are out of touch when it comes to kids and old people with dementia." ellisonz May 2012 #32

I concede nothing gejohnston May 2012 #35

You're actually not being quite accurate... ellisonz May 2012 #36

Actually, I trained the masters of tangent gejohnston May 2012 #38

but it is getting there gejohnston May 2012 #52

Ummm, didn't say any of what you claim DonP May 2012 #30

Glad you so readily defend a right-wing political organization like the NRA... ellisonz May 2012 #34

I guess that bi-partisan thing confuses you, huh? DonP May 2012 #45

Statistically speaking... ellisonz May 2012 #46

unless they come across an anti gun Republican gejohnston May 2012 #48

Moved Kasich up to a B from F just before the election. safeinOhio May 2012 #93

got a cite for that? gejohnston May 2012 #94

Sure, safeinOhio May 2012 #95

What is the point of this post? Doctor_J May 2012 #39

I honestly haven't seen him claim to be a Democrat. n/t ellisonz May 2012 #47

why does that sound so gejohnston May 2012 #49

The Allen West poster on your living room wall? ellisonz May 2012 #55

That is not even remotly funny gejohnston May 2012 #56

I don't think you understand what McCarthyism is... ellisonz May 2012 #58

actually I do gejohnston May 2012 #60

It's true. ellisonz May 2012 #62

Try specific Dems in his area gejohnston May 2012 #67

Slander-by-insinuation against Veterans noted. PavePusher May 2012 #11

Can't handle the truth... ellisonz May 2012 #15

Bed bunker? gejohnston May 2012 #50

Use the youtube! ellisonz May 2012 #54

space saving safes gejohnston May 2012 #57

And you'll be ready in case of zombie apocalypse! ellisonz May 2012 #59

I thought your definition of a responsible gun owner gejohnston May 2012 #61

See even the VA knows that guns kill people...the NRA is pretty much spot on. ileus May 2012 #12

What they have to gain is keeping innocent people from getting killed. Something you don't seem to Hoyt May 2012 #19

Not everyone gets dementia. GreenStormCloud May 2012 #22

If they'd have stuck with crazy old turds like my father ileus May 2012 #40

Only in your gun obsessed mind. Hoyt May 2012 #42

Senile dementia is a problem that involves much more than just guns. GreenStormCloud May 2012 #20

Maybe they just have perspective/objectivity that those addicted to guns don't. Hoyt May 2012 #21

or more likely, gejohnston May 2012 #24

Ding. Ding. Ding. We have a winner. N/T GreenStormCloud May 2012 #26

Different perspective for them - Yes. Objectivity for them - No. N/T GreenStormCloud May 2012 #25

They also have an interest in protecting VA employees. HereSince1628 May 2012 #28

True, but the OP was about gun in the home. GreenStormCloud May 2012 #29

Too bad all entities don't show same sense of responsibility regarding guns. Hoyt May 2012 #31

The pamphlet could have been done better -- with more finesse. aikoaiko May 2012 #37

This is purely anecdotal, but sylvi May 2012 #44

Thanks for you valuable input. GreenStormCloud May 2012 #64

Probably because most families are smart enough to remove the firearms... ellisonz May 2012 #79

My Dad's an old retired vet moroni May 2012 #91

My hat's off to you sylvi May 2012 #92

Having been in your position, moroni, my heart is with you. NT Simo 1939_1940 May 2012 #129

welcome to DU and GC&RKBA Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #127

What GSC said, and I'll add that while you describe your experience as anecdotal Simo 1939_1940 May 2012 #128

Criminals also have homes and guns. Atypical Liberal May 2012 #51

Zimmerman and Loughner are recent examples that bring into question your last assertion. Hoyt May 2012 #53

Only for abnormal definitions of "rare". ManiacJoe May 2012 #72

There are a bunch of folks like Zimmerman walking around and being called "law-abiding" by the Hoyt May 2012 #73

Very true, but... ManiacJoe May 2012 #74

You can repeat, in whatever form you choose, the suggestion that law-abiding citizens are Simo 1939_1940 May 2012 #130

How so? Atypical Liberal May 2012 #85

Nonsense. ellisonz May 2012 #63

You are wrong as usual. GreenStormCloud May 2012 #65

Perhaps... ellisonz May 2012 #70

Whom did she murder? GreenStormCloud May 2012 #71

LOL, and no cars, no car accidents. Atypical Liberal May 2012 #87

Same tripe, different day. Simo 1939_1940 May 2012 #88

Excellent point. ileus May 2012 #66

Does AAA approve of driving for dementia patients? Remmah2 May 2012 #69

The VA is a favorite cause of mine. jeepnstein May 2012 #81

"Many of them gave a part of themselves that they'll never get back." Simo 1939_1940 May 2012 #98

A recent book which tackles the issue squarely Scribejohn May 2012 #96

Thanks - looks like my kind of book. TBF May 2012 #97

Hope you enjoy it... Scribejohn May 2012 #103

I read many mysteries/thrillers TBF May 2012 #107

K&R Cali_Democrat May 2012 #132