Please raise your hand if you think legally owning a firearm absolves you of ALL criminal liability.

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55. Murder is very rarely done as a first offense.

OK, I did immediately jump to CCWers, and you are talking about legal gun owners. I will admit to that error, and apologize for it.

Rarely means rarely, not never, so please don't twist my words.

Criminology is a recognized field of study, and murder has been well studied. It is well established that a person who murders almost always (There are very rare exceptions) already has a criminal record, usually with multiple convictions. A New York study found that the average murderer had about 9 previous arrests for felonies. Such people are already banned from owning guns so it should be obvious to you that they were illegal gun owners. Since it is established that murder as a first offense is extremely rare then it also follows that legal gun owners very rarely commit murder.

...there's certainly crimes for which the suspect has not been captured or even identified. it would srrm to me that it's the homicides themselves that bear looking at, and not just hte convictions. You seem to be trying to charge legal gun owners with all the unsolved murders. That won't fly. Unsolved means unsolved.

The shooter being talked about set up a situation that boxed his lawyer in. He has to try the SYG law and it is unlikely to work. He sought out the confrontation and by his manner escalated the event. I don't remember where I read it in the last day or two but the attorney has admitted that he has a very difficult case on his hands. Texas precedent does not support his case.