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In reply to the discussion: Guns in Public, and Out of Sight [View all]Atypical Liberal
(5,412 posts)40. Why it is refreshing.
Why is that refreshing?
It is refreshing because otherwise good people would only have three choices when confronted with a violent attacker: Flee if they are fast enough, submit if they are tough enough, or engage in a physical contest of strength with their attacker if they are strong enough.
It's refreshing to know that people have another choice that enables them to fight back without engaging in a physical contest of strength.
It's always been so, regardless of the bit of paper that says you can do it legally. Anyone who really felt the need to carry one would.
But it's refreshing to know that now it is sanctioned under law. You don't have to hide or skulk or otherwise sneak to exercise your Constitutional right to keep and bear arms. Granted, you shouldn't need a "bit of paper that says you can do it legally", but at least it's getting easier and easier to get that piece of paper.
What's happening now is a fad. A very dangerous fad, because it will ultimately threaten the very constitutional right you believe in so much.
If it's a fad, it's a fad that's been going on since at least 1986, and shows no signs of slowing down. That's nearly 30 years. Bell bottoms didn't last that long.
It is refreshing because otherwise good people would only have three choices when confronted with a violent attacker: Flee if they are fast enough, submit if they are tough enough, or engage in a physical contest of strength with their attacker if they are strong enough.
It's refreshing to know that people have another choice that enables them to fight back without engaging in a physical contest of strength.
It's always been so, regardless of the bit of paper that says you can do it legally. Anyone who really felt the need to carry one would.
But it's refreshing to know that now it is sanctioned under law. You don't have to hide or skulk or otherwise sneak to exercise your Constitutional right to keep and bear arms. Granted, you shouldn't need a "bit of paper that says you can do it legally", but at least it's getting easier and easier to get that piece of paper.
What's happening now is a fad. A very dangerous fad, because it will ultimately threaten the very constitutional right you believe in so much.
If it's a fad, it's a fad that's been going on since at least 1986, and shows no signs of slowing down. That's nearly 30 years. Bell bottoms didn't last that long.
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So refreshing and reassuring to know only the good guys carry guns, isn't it?
Starboard Tack
Dec 2011
#1
No, it's refreshing to know that not ONLY the bad guys can carry guns.
Atypical Liberal
Dec 2011
#23
Studied some Judo at police college and later I did some Karate training. No belts or special PJs.
Starboard Tack
Dec 2011
#55
Training for a black belt is difficult. Takes dedication, determination and time.
Starboard Tack
Dec 2011
#80
No bullshit, I'm relating real life experience. Nothing Hollywood about it. No contradictions.
Starboard Tack
Dec 2011
#86
I'm not denying that a gun is more effective than a martial art. So is a bomb.
Starboard Tack
Dec 2011
#58
He said "Then there are likely situations where a gun is the best answer"
Starboard Tack
Dec 2011
#81
I don't want to disarm anyone, not even the criminals. I definitely don't want to discuss your guns.
Starboard Tack
Dec 2011
#109
But since those people who legally carry in public represent no real threat to you
hack89
Dec 2011
#110
And that script will probably continue to be played out. Nothing new about your response.
Starboard Tack
Jan 2012
#136
Sanity is also not about repeating an unproven assertion, in the hopes it becomes accepted truth.
beevul
Jan 2012
#151
Again with the silly "guns are designed to injure or kill humans"...........
Simo 1939_1940
Jan 2012
#129
It's so refreshing and reassuring to know only the good guys use laptops, isn't it?
SteveW
Dec 2011
#30
I don't want to expand NICS or any other testing, except individual reality testing
Starboard Tack
Dec 2011
#38
Why don't you want to expand NICS? What were Bloomie's whiny videos about if not that?
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2011
#42
Then DO something. Support President Obama's proposals, for starters:
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2012
#125
Can't help it- I took your claim to want effective gun control at face value.
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2012
#138
Individuals make the choice - as long as government doesn't get in the way.
Atypical Liberal
Dec 2011
#56
"What makes you so special that these violent criminal pose a threat to you."
Simo 1939_1940
Jan 2012
#144
The number of guns in the US has risen, while gun violence has declined.
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2012
#184
Really good argument for more user fees to pay for background checks and record maintenance...
ellisonz
Dec 2011
#6
So we should have fees required to carry a book or speak in public, and to vote.
PavePusher
Dec 2011
#20
Or a good argument for just doing away with the requirement altogether.
Atypical Liberal
Dec 2011
#28
Sounds like N.C. may have a communication problem between law enforcement....
PavePusher
Dec 2011
#7
The article admits that there are crimes prevented by those who legally carry concealed...
spin
Dec 2011
#9
Hard for NYT "to track [gun self-defense] episodes." Esp. if they neither try...
SteveW
Dec 2011
#65