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Starboard Tack

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32. Homicide may be justifiable

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 06:35 PM

Jun 2012

It is the only act which does need to be shown to be justified. If evidence points to anything other than it being justified, then it should prosecuted and a jury allowed to decide. The onus is still on the prosecution to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. SYG laws open the floodgates for abuse, as already seen by the surge of legal murders in Florida.

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Texas Democratic Party adopts 2012 platform with strong gun-hostile verbage [View all] derby378 Jun 2012 OP

Kind of a provisional comment without reading the platform, but I'm petronius Jun 2012 #1

I always say... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2012 #2

As soon as the TDP posts the platform, I'll provide a link derby378 Jun 2012 #3

Cool, thanks, I'd be curious to read it petronius Jun 2012 #6

Sounds like they went to the bar before they started. PavePusher Jun 2012 #9

Not smart. Smart moths avoid flames. n/t TPaine7 Jun 2012 #4

Texas? hard to believe. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #5

Great election-losing strategy. Atypical Liberal Jun 2012 #7

Yea, Texans will like that....NOT... virginia mountainman Jun 2012 #8

Don't know about the "terror lists" but see nothing wrong with the rest. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #10

I think a lot of it depends on who sets the criteria for DTR derby378 Jun 2012 #13

The duty requires the option. You are not expected to be spiderman. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #22

depends on the jury gejohnston Jun 2012 #24

Homicide may be justifiable Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #32

legal murders gejohnston Jun 2012 #38

Of course it's an oxymoron. That's the whole point. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #42

No. gejohnston Jun 2012 #44

I agree, they get called on it if they are stupid Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #59

you have been watching too many cop shows gejohnston Jun 2012 #60

Very rarely watch any cop shows. Never liked most of them. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #63

this will show you how old I am SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #66

Police Story was good gejohnston Jun 2012 #69

Adam-12 was good also SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #77

Well, the first clue that your assumption has no basis in reality... Clames Jun 2012 #68

I don't think so, because not that many have murder on their mind. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #73

I fell off that bandwagon. gejohnston Jun 2012 #74

According to you, anyone with a mind to murder... Clames Jun 2012 #79

a couple of things wrong gejohnston Jun 2012 #14

Why should I have a "Duty to Retreat"? SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #15

The reason to retreat is to remove yourself from danger Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #26

If you can, but gejohnston Jun 2012 #27

If you cannot, then you have no duty to retreat. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #34

name one state or territory gejohnston Jun 2012 #36

Very good post SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #40

You make a lot of sense Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #54

SYG does not allow chasing the bad guy. GreenStormCloud Jun 2012 #56

When did I say it did? Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #58

I believe that you are confused. oneshooter Jun 2012 #67

I believe I said that if I could retreat safely I would SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #39

so if someone is attacking you, it should be mandatory armueller2001 Jun 2012 #23

Do you think retreating is turning your back and running? Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #28

false choice gejohnston Jun 2012 #29

Ask some of our friends from Texas Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #35

as I understand Texas law gejohnston Jun 2012 #37

I would love to have someone explain to me how SYG laws are different from spin Jun 2012 #55

The character of the dead guy becomes evidence. GreenStormCloud Jun 2012 #57

Sounds reasonable to me ... spin Jun 2012 #61

I can state categorically SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #41

Thankfully, most are like you. Sane. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #43

Which reminds me, gejohnston Jun 2012 #46

Mercy, mercy, mercy......... NT Simo 1939_1940 Jun 2012 #11

Here we go again Meiko Jun 2012 #12

Requesting an Update .... thanks. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #16

I can't find anything on the internet about this other then the OP. Kaleva Jun 2012 #17

me either and I have been searching.. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #18

The only things of interest I've found were: Kaleva Jun 2012 #19

yes, I found all those, too. I guess there is a reason they are being Quiet about this... Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #20

I emailed the Gun Owners Caucus gejohnston Jun 2012 #25

can you post his reply on here? at least the portion that pertains to this issue? thanks. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #30

I asked for permission, but I don't have it yet. NA gejohnston Jun 2012 #31

thanks n/t Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #33

Hi, Gary - it's me derby378 Jun 2012 #70

OK. gejohnston Jun 2012 #72

mobilize Democratic gun owners in Texas . . .wonder how many more of those there could be if Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #80

Why do we let 1 or 2 fringe regressives try and pilot the part into the past? ileus Jun 2012 #21

same reason the Repubs have been strangled by the abortion issue... Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #64

This is a funny thread, watching so many of you go off half-cocked. Electric Monk Jun 2012 #45

Almost all single action posters here. safeinOhio Jun 2012 #47

Replacing your P-22 gejohnston Jun 2012 #48

I personally like the SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #49

Have to check out the Vaquero gejohnston Jun 2012 #50

I love the Vaquero SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #52

I would like to check out the Bisley gejohnston Jun 2012 #53

interesting comment from the other side of the coin Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #51

That was a good funny. N/T GreenStormCloud Jun 2012 #62

do you mean they adopted the National Platform? Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #65

Here is the 2012 TDP platform at long last derby378 Jun 2012 #71

It seems to me that Texas Dems have given up on Texas. oneshooter Jun 2012 #75

Fuck them, they really *do* support those terror watch lists. friendly_iconoclast Jun 2012 #76

could you please post the pertinent section? I can't open the file. thanks. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #78

Try checking this site for details on the platform derby378 Jun 2012 #81

Here's the pertinent bits: friendly_iconoclast Jun 2012 #82

oh well. Obama doesn't expect to carry Texas anyway and I guess the local Dems are happy leaving Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #83