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In reply to the discussion: Guns in Public, and Out of Sight [View all]Atypical Liberal
(5,412 posts)48. Judo is a physical contest of strength.
I wonder why you discount other, far better options, though fleeing is not a bad option.
Fleeing is good, if you are unable or unwilling to stand up to bad people.
You might want to consider using your brain. It's amazing how successful it can be in such situations.
What mind powers did you have in mind when you are being attacked by a violent criminal.
And rather than a physical contest of strength, I would suggest a few classes in Judo.
When I say "a physical contest of strength", I am talking about any engagement of with your attacker that involves the physical use of your body's strength to thwart your attacker. Judo, or any other martial art, is a physical contest of strength. You have to be physically strong enough to be successful.
Way more effective than a gun as a weapon of self-defense. A handgun is the last thing you need in a physical confrontation, especially with a more powerful adversary, unless you have both the element of surprise, which is highly unlikely, and you have a killer instinct (also unlikely if you're one of the "good" guys).
There is no better weapon than a firearm for dealing with a violent attack. It is why the police carry them instead of relying on martial arts training.
You seem to be very concerned about what you describe as "engaging in a physical contest of strength". Let's be serious here. What do you mean by that? I'm having trouble imagining what you are trying to say.
I thought it was pretty straight-forward. As I said, if you are using the strength of your body to thwart a violent attack, then you are engaging in a physical contest of strength with your attacker. That's great if you are stronger than your attacker, or a more skilled martial artist.
Regarding that bit of paper. It and $3.50 will buy you a coffee at Starbucks. If I felt the need to carry a gun, I would, regardless of any bit of paper "sanctioned under law". The permit would be the last thing on my mind. The first thing on my mind would be who I'm going to shoot and how I am going to shoot them.
I agree with you, and this is precisely the mindset of armed criminals today.
But it is refreshing that normal, non-criminal citizens can also carry firearms without risking punishment from the state. Law-abiding people don't have to break the law to carry firearms.
Because I can think of no other reason to carry a gun as a private citizen.
So you think the only reason people carry firearms is because they are hoping to shoot someone?
Do you wear seatbelts because you are looking for a car accident? Do you have smoke detectors or fire extinquishers because you are hoping for a fire? Do you carry a spare tire because you are hoping for a flat? Do you have health insurance because you are hoping to get sick?
People own such things not because they want to use them, but in case they have to use them.
Firearms are the same way.
Fleeing is good, if you are unable or unwilling to stand up to bad people.
You might want to consider using your brain. It's amazing how successful it can be in such situations.
What mind powers did you have in mind when you are being attacked by a violent criminal.
And rather than a physical contest of strength, I would suggest a few classes in Judo.
When I say "a physical contest of strength", I am talking about any engagement of with your attacker that involves the physical use of your body's strength to thwart your attacker. Judo, or any other martial art, is a physical contest of strength. You have to be physically strong enough to be successful.
Way more effective than a gun as a weapon of self-defense. A handgun is the last thing you need in a physical confrontation, especially with a more powerful adversary, unless you have both the element of surprise, which is highly unlikely, and you have a killer instinct (also unlikely if you're one of the "good" guys).
There is no better weapon than a firearm for dealing with a violent attack. It is why the police carry them instead of relying on martial arts training.
You seem to be very concerned about what you describe as "engaging in a physical contest of strength". Let's be serious here. What do you mean by that? I'm having trouble imagining what you are trying to say.
I thought it was pretty straight-forward. As I said, if you are using the strength of your body to thwart a violent attack, then you are engaging in a physical contest of strength with your attacker. That's great if you are stronger than your attacker, or a more skilled martial artist.
Regarding that bit of paper. It and $3.50 will buy you a coffee at Starbucks. If I felt the need to carry a gun, I would, regardless of any bit of paper "sanctioned under law". The permit would be the last thing on my mind. The first thing on my mind would be who I'm going to shoot and how I am going to shoot them.
I agree with you, and this is precisely the mindset of armed criminals today.
But it is refreshing that normal, non-criminal citizens can also carry firearms without risking punishment from the state. Law-abiding people don't have to break the law to carry firearms.
Because I can think of no other reason to carry a gun as a private citizen.
So you think the only reason people carry firearms is because they are hoping to shoot someone?
Do you wear seatbelts because you are looking for a car accident? Do you have smoke detectors or fire extinquishers because you are hoping for a fire? Do you carry a spare tire because you are hoping for a flat? Do you have health insurance because you are hoping to get sick?
People own such things not because they want to use them, but in case they have to use them.
Firearms are the same way.
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So refreshing and reassuring to know only the good guys carry guns, isn't it?
Starboard Tack
Dec 2011
#1
No, it's refreshing to know that not ONLY the bad guys can carry guns.
Atypical Liberal
Dec 2011
#23
Studied some Judo at police college and later I did some Karate training. No belts or special PJs.
Starboard Tack
Dec 2011
#55
Training for a black belt is difficult. Takes dedication, determination and time.
Starboard Tack
Dec 2011
#80
No bullshit, I'm relating real life experience. Nothing Hollywood about it. No contradictions.
Starboard Tack
Dec 2011
#86
I'm not denying that a gun is more effective than a martial art. So is a bomb.
Starboard Tack
Dec 2011
#58
He said "Then there are likely situations where a gun is the best answer"
Starboard Tack
Dec 2011
#81
I don't want to disarm anyone, not even the criminals. I definitely don't want to discuss your guns.
Starboard Tack
Dec 2011
#109
But since those people who legally carry in public represent no real threat to you
hack89
Dec 2011
#110
And that script will probably continue to be played out. Nothing new about your response.
Starboard Tack
Jan 2012
#136
Sanity is also not about repeating an unproven assertion, in the hopes it becomes accepted truth.
beevul
Jan 2012
#151
Again with the silly "guns are designed to injure or kill humans"...........
Simo 1939_1940
Jan 2012
#129
It's so refreshing and reassuring to know only the good guys use laptops, isn't it?
SteveW
Dec 2011
#30
I don't want to expand NICS or any other testing, except individual reality testing
Starboard Tack
Dec 2011
#38
Why don't you want to expand NICS? What were Bloomie's whiny videos about if not that?
friendly_iconoclast
Dec 2011
#42
Then DO something. Support President Obama's proposals, for starters:
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2012
#125
Can't help it- I took your claim to want effective gun control at face value.
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2012
#138
Individuals make the choice - as long as government doesn't get in the way.
Atypical Liberal
Dec 2011
#56
"What makes you so special that these violent criminal pose a threat to you."
Simo 1939_1940
Jan 2012
#144
The number of guns in the US has risen, while gun violence has declined.
friendly_iconoclast
Jan 2012
#184
Really good argument for more user fees to pay for background checks and record maintenance...
ellisonz
Dec 2011
#6
So we should have fees required to carry a book or speak in public, and to vote.
PavePusher
Dec 2011
#20
Or a good argument for just doing away with the requirement altogether.
Atypical Liberal
Dec 2011
#28
Sounds like N.C. may have a communication problem between law enforcement....
PavePusher
Dec 2011
#7
The article admits that there are crimes prevented by those who legally carry concealed...
spin
Dec 2011
#9
Hard for NYT "to track [gun self-defense] episodes." Esp. if they neither try...
SteveW
Dec 2011
#65