Texas A&M Study Says Castle-Doctrine Laws Increase Homicides, Don't Deter Crime

[gejohnston]

85. So, race bias in SYG, but you don't think there would be one

in DTR. Righhhhhhhhhhhhhhht. That is not the point. The point is the burden is on the state to prove that you committed a crime. Justifiable homicide is not a crime.
In DTR, you have to prove that you acted reasonably and that you did not murder the person. There is also the civil issue. It all depends on reasonable. As far as I can tell Robert Eells acted reasonably. As you read from some of the threads, some would hang him because he told some sociopath "no" and he should have handed over the wallet. So, no I don't buy it.
Here is a case where the defender tried to retreat, in Florida, and there were still people bitching about "getting away with murder".

A judge’s ruling, made public Tuesday, granted a motion to dismiss the second-degree murder charge against Jorge Saavedra in the death of 16-year-old Dylan Nuno on the grounds that he acted in self-defense under Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” law. The State Attorney’s Office has indicated that it will not appeal the ruling.

Since Jorge tried to retreat and act reasonable by any standard, SYG is not relevant. Plus he was on trial for murder in juvenile court. There was no immunity hearing about SYG. It went straight to murder.

n a nine-page document released Tuesday by the State Attorney’s Office, Brodie stated that by getting off the bus several stops before the location where the fight was to happen, Saavedra “demonstrated that, with or without a knife, (he) had no desire to fight with Dylan Nuno.”

Accompanied by several students, Dylan Nuno, a junior, followed Saavedra, a freshman, off the bus. He then punched him in the back of the head, according to court documents and testimony.

Saavedra attempted to get away once, witnesses said. He then stabbed Dylan Nuno 12 times in the chest and abdomen. Two of the blows caused fatal wounds, including one that nicked his heart.

After two days of witnesses describing what an asshole bully Dylan was, how Jorge tried to get away without using any force, Dylan's mommy thinks they are covering for her baby being murdered. Utter bullshit. This is an example of why I don't have time for "poor innocent person murdered in cold blood by redneck" or fill in your own slur. Did Dylan deserve to die? No, but he brought it on himself. If he wasn't a bully, he would still be alive. Did Jorge murder him? No. Based on the evidence did Jorge act reasonable? Yes, much more than what the law required.