Gun Control & RKBA

friendly_iconoclast

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51. I must be a heretic then, as I don't own a gun and haven't for 30+ years.

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 12:28 AM

Dec 2011

You might be surprised to learn that one might support the rights of others to do something without joining in yourself....

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Another "just give them what they want" situation... [View all] mvccd1000 Dec 2011 OP

I don't see how this story in anyway illustrates your commentary. ellisonz Dec 2011 #1

It's true, she should have called the police ... Kennah Dec 2011 #2

What you do is get a police officer to follow you home... ellisonz Dec 2011 #3

Yeah, sure, good luck with that Kennah Dec 2011 #4

"They protect and serve the general peace." ellisonz Dec 2011 #5

Not unless she was under arrest, and therefore had a "special relationship" with the police... S_B_Jackson Dec 2011 #6

Cynical view of the police... ellisonz Dec 2011 #16

Cynical, Satirical, Farcical, Hypocritical.. what the fuck does that have to do with reality? X_Digger Dec 2011 #26

Keep Digging. ellisonz Dec 2011 #27

Nice dodge. Do you concede that the police have no obligation to come and protect you when you call? X_Digger Dec 2011 #29

*facepalm* ellisonz Dec 2011 #32

What they may try to do is different than what they are legally obligated to do.. X_Digger Dec 2011 #34

palmface SteveW Dec 2011 #68

How did you make the leap ... Kennah Dec 2011 #49

I would suspect that reflects an urban rural divide... ellisonz Dec 2011 #53

You'll have to explain a police investigation into enabling Kennah Dec 2011 #56

Friend who is a police sgt is sitting right next to me and he says rl6214 Dec 2011 #57

Better than nothing... ellisonz Dec 2011 #62

Not cynical, simply a realistic acceptance of their duty and their role. S_B_Jackson Dec 2011 #44

So logically it holds then... ellisonz Dec 2011 #54

No, it means that they *might* S_B_Jackson Dec 2011 #65

The police are not charged with thwarting crime or protecting you... SteveW Dec 2011 #67

This could be a reason for your position DissedByBush Dec 2011 #9

Cynical view of the police... ellisonz Dec 2011 #17

Constitutional view of the police DissedByBush Dec 2011 #23

You mean the same police MicaelS Dec 2011 #47

I take issue with those depictions as being totally accurate... ellisonz Dec 2011 #48

No, she isn't.. X_Digger Dec 2011 #10

Cynical view of the police... ellisonz Dec 2011 #18

It's reality. You might wish it different, or think it should be changed.. X_Digger Dec 2011 #21

Then I expect you to never call the police... ellisonz Dec 2011 #22

Oh, I'll call them to come clean up. I don't expect them to save me. X_Digger Dec 2011 #24

"they can't be held accountable." ellisonz Dec 2011 #25

Here, let me quote *actual text* from the court cases.. X_Digger Dec 2011 #28

*facepalm* ellisonz Dec 2011 #30

Talk to Ruth Bunnell -- oh wait, she's dead. X_Digger Dec 2011 #31

I'm neither denying her right to self-defense nor the beneficies of police departments. ellisonz Dec 2011 #33

And if the police failed to enforce the restraining order? Too bad.. X_Digger Dec 2011 #37

You can stop projecting now... ellisonz Dec 2011 #38

That's a hell of a different statement than you made in post #5. X_Digger Dec 2011 #39

I think they would have... ellisonz Dec 2011 #40

Which was "And as part of the "general" she is entitled to such services..." friendly_iconoclast Dec 2011 #42

When presented with facts, criticism of attitude follows. X_Digger Dec 2011 #43

Standard operating procedure for someone... SteveW Dec 2011 #69

So she should not have called the police? ellisonz Dec 2011 #45

I must be a heretic then, as I don't own a gun and haven't for 30+ years. friendly_iconoclast Dec 2011 #51

Naah, Tony S. has been wrong on more than one occasion... friendly_iconoclast Dec 2011 #52

Hmmm. More anti-gun cartoons than Brady Center employees? nt SteveW Dec 2011 #70

Undoubtedly. friendly_iconoclast Dec 2011 #73

Maybe you will answer because no one ever will rl6214 Dec 2011 #58

Sure. ellisonz Dec 2011 #61

I've known a lot of gun owners, none at all like the subset you describe. PavePusher Dec 2011 #66

NOW you're sounding like some gun-controllers here... SteveW Dec 2011 #71

Made up term to make someone sound bad and scary rl6214 Dec 2011 #74

But police have guns, they must be evil. Remmah2 Dec 2011 #15

I've said no such thing. n/t ellisonz Dec 2011 #35

Why do you continue to post this clear and obvious lie? You have been told many times Fair Witness Dec 2011 #41

Police have NO duty to protect and serve so say the Justices rl6214 Dec 2011 #55

So, what would you have had her do? Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #46

So, what would you have had her do? Kennah Dec 2011 #50

No, I wouldn't. It's not easy to advise the deceased victim of such a horrendous crime. Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #63

How out of touch with reality are you? AtheistCrusader Dec 2011 #11

I've never denied the right to self-defense. ellisonz Dec 2011 #36

Then who would protect the donut shops? Remmah2 Dec 2011 #14

Cynical view of the police... ellisonz Dec 2011 #19

Broken record rl6214 Dec 2011 #59

...and how many gun-congroller/prohibitionists end up that way? nt SteveW Dec 2011 #72

It shows her level of confidence in law enforcement Remmah2 Dec 2011 #13

Not when you fumble and it gets used against you... ellisonz Dec 2011 #20

Of course you can cite all the times this has happened rl6214 Dec 2011 #60

In a perfect world, the police respond in a timely manner Deejai Dec 2011 #7

Which is why many of us choose to carry the tools required to protect ourselves. AtheistCrusader Dec 2011 #12

self-defense is mean....why deny someone the little things in life. ileus Dec 2011 #8

It's rude is what it is. LAGC Dec 2011 #64