Gun Control & RKBA

TPaine7

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37. Enjoying a magazine is less important than preserving innocent life.

Mon Jun 25, 2012, 05:05 PM

Jun 2012

Also, IMNSHO, society benefits when criminals are stopped at gunpoint and no one is hurt.

Society also benefits when, in a case where it's either a productive member of society or a predator, the productive person survives and the predator dies.

For example, society would have benefited greatly if the BTK killer had been killed by his first intended victim.

Yes, that's an extreme example, but the principle holds for less prolific predators. Better the predator die than Joe or Jane blow.

There are both personal and societal benefits when the good guy prevails.

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Why Cops Shouldn't be Allowed to Carry Guns [View all] TPaine7 Jun 2012 OP

Actually, I am the only one who should be allowed to carry a gun. razorman Jun 2012 #1

lol Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #4

Absolutely. Gotta be ready for the Zombie Apocalypse. razorman Jun 2012 #9

Are you professional enough? aikoaiko Jun 2012 #42

Actually, I sort of agree Scootaloo Jun 2012 #2

aren't cops just private individuals in uniform doing a job that is paid for by our taxes? Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #3

Cops are cops 24 hours a day. You can say the same about the military. demosincebirth Jun 2012 #5

Oh. Believe me. I do. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2012 #8

Nope, they are agents of the state Euromutt Jul 2012 #86

They are Private Individuals Hired by a Collective Group of Private Individuals and as such They Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #88

Nope, sorry, my inner PolSci major insists Euromutt Jul 2012 #89

excuse me but, what part of this statement: Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #90

Must be Friday night...... Please leave your guns at home. Hoyt Jun 2012 #6

Come on Hoyt, be consistent. TPaine7 Jun 2012 #7

As Bill Gambini said... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2012 #10

Nobody should carry a gun, unless they have damn good reason for doing so. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #11

other than UK and South Korea gejohnston Jun 2012 #12

I know. Isn't it amazing? You would think others would see the light. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #15

Ironic thing about Norway gejohnston Jun 2012 #18

Giving cops guns is the first step in creating a police state. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #20

Until 1988 gejohnston Jun 2012 #23

I have not been to either country, so I couldn't say. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #27

Thank goodness there are many places in the world far more civil than England. Clames Jun 2012 #45

What does that have to do with carrying a gun? Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #54

English food might taste nasty and bland gejohnston Jun 2012 #58

Yep! Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #64

even worse gejohnston Jun 2012 #67

I actually have been to a few that served dishes... Clames Jun 2012 #72

I can sort of relate. gejohnston Jun 2012 #47

Exactly. Cops here tend to have an us vs. them attitude. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #61

In the People's Republic of China... Marengo Jul 2012 #85

So being armed in case of confrontation in order to preserve your life isn't a "damn good reason"? TPaine7 Jun 2012 #13

Did I say public policy? Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #14

No, you didn't say public policy. Point taken. TPaine7 Jun 2012 #16

I don't think I excel at talking my way out of situations any more than you or anyone else. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #19

Sure killing is nothing to brag about, but no one said anything about bragging. TPaine7 Jun 2012 #21

Mistaken identity? Yes, I've heard of it. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #24

I am suggesting no such thing. TPaine7 Jun 2012 #25

We risk our lives every time we get out of bed. Has nothing to do with carrying guns. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #26

So we agree, risking life is not a big scary issue. TPaine7 Jun 2012 #28

Yes, we agree. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #29

Because by doing so we also compound our ability for self-defense. TPaine7 Jun 2012 #30

Now you hit the crux of the matter. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #31

Why do you refuse to apply your analysis to the other branch--the one I raised? TPaine7 Jun 2012 #33

Easy! Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #34

Enjoying a magazine is less important than preserving innocent life. TPaine7 Jun 2012 #37

This message was self-deleted by its author TPaine7 Jun 2012 #22

Can you imagine Meiko Jun 2012 #40

No I can't , because it won't happen and shouldn't happen. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #41

What works in the UK... Clames Jun 2012 #46

Nonsense. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #49

Apt description of the notion that what works in the UK would work in the US. Clames Jun 2012 #51

You are entitled to your opinion. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #52

I can't help what you believe. Clames Jun 2012 #59

I don't want to get into a pissing contest with you. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #63

You are so dense you should be at CERN. Clames Jun 2012 #73

Which cultures are you referring to? US and UK? Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #76

And you still don't understand why what you suggest wouldn't work... Clames Jun 2012 #80

Neither of us know what will work or not. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #83

Yes I do. Clames Jun 2012 #84

Use 'COP' and 'ASLEEP' in Google IMAGES, then come back with more excuses. Tejas Jun 2012 #56

LOL! But what do you mean by excuses? Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #65

I should be the only person allowed to carry... ileus Jun 2012 #17

Even that makes more sense than arming cops. n/t NewMoonTherian Jun 2012 #35

Here's another reason why cops shouldn't carry guns Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #32

I'd say cops carry guns because safeinOhio Jun 2012 #36

You are a true role model for both gun owners and licensed carriers. Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #39

Well said Meiko Jun 2012 #43

There are many people who live and work in TPaine7 Jun 2012 #44

and those people that live in safeinOhio Jun 2012 #48

do they actually have a choice? gejohnston Jun 2012 #50

few, because those running for mayor represent safeinOhio Jun 2012 #53

Yet it does not occur to them why gejohnston Jun 2012 #55

"They" ? safeinOhio Jun 2012 #62

not judging anyone's intellegence gejohnston Jun 2012 #66

Your post # 55 is safeinOhio Jun 2012 #68

actually no I am not aware of it gejohnston Jun 2012 #69

I didn't think it was, however safeinOhio Jun 2012 #71

It absolutely makes sense to make roadways into rural areas. gejohnston Jun 2012 #74

I think the majority of safeinOhio Jun 2012 #78

You are reading something into gejohnston's post that he did not say rl6214 Jul 2012 #87

The times, they are changing... TPaine7 Jun 2012 #57

just what this state needs, gejohnston Jun 2012 #60

Those rights have limits as even Scalia notes safeinOhio Jun 2012 #70

You have been misled TPaine7 Jun 2012 #75

Those were Scalia's exact words safeinOhio Jun 2012 #77

This is not a quote of the Supreme Court: TPaine7 Jun 2012 #81

I'm not the one being misled. safeinOhio Jun 2012 #79

It appears that your interpretation of my words is no better TPaine7 Jun 2012 #82

Simple solution... Fredjust Jun 2012 #38