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In reply to the discussion: "Legally allowing women to shoot their rapists only encourages murders." [View all]caseymoz
(5,763 posts)59. If you insist on legally accurate terms
But trial is how a judge and jury "investigate" the investigation. The police have their investigation, then if the prosecutor determines that there was a crime and who was likely responsible, they indict and gather evidence with further investigation.
Then the judge and jury "investigate" the investigation, partially by having the defense poke holes in the People's scenario. Normally, rather than confuse people by using the same term, we call this a trial. But it's still an investigation, the way the courts, as opposed to The People, scrutinize a case and come to a conclusion.
So, besides the fact that you're calling me an idiot because I'm literally right but deliberately didn't use the correct term, just how do you think this undercuts my argument? Trial is how the court investigates anything. If it's homicide it must be investigated at least to the prosecuting level. And if it's so clearly self-defense, sometimes they won't prosecute it. There's no sense in trying a case if the jury returns self-defense.
I don't mind that discretion. But it has to reach at least that level.
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"Legally allowing women to shoot their rapists only encourages murders." [View all]
Nuclear Unicorn
Jun 2012
OP
SYG adds nothing new except the would-be victim is not required to retreat
Nuclear Unicorn
Jun 2012
#4
I wasn't commenting on the rightness or wrongness of privately owned prisons
Nuclear Unicorn
Jun 2012
#42
You are the one who is not thinking and is seriously confused about SD and SYG
ProgressiveProfessor
Jun 2012
#67
Saying something is demonstrably false and then providing an example is insulting?
Nuclear Unicorn
Jun 2012
#20
Arrest and trial ARE punishment, if one hasn't actually done something wrong.
PavePusher
Jun 2012
#24
"Idiot"? Not at all. "Confused", maybe. Or possibly, by your own admission, "misleading".
PavePusher
Jun 2012
#60