Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
Editorials & Other Articles
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
Gun Control & RKBA
In reply to the discussion: Why Cops Shouldn't be Allowed to Carry Guns [View all]TPaine7
(4,286 posts)75. You have been misled
..the Court reiterated in McDonald that the 2nd Amendment only protects a right to possess a firearm in the home for lawful uses such as self-defense.
Utterly and completely false. You probably read this in a "reputable" media source, but you have been misled. The Court only addressed the home because that was all that was at issue in the case. In Heller the Court only addressed federal territories too, but that did not mean that the Second Amendment only protects firearms in federal territories, as the Court later found in McDonald.
Only finding that the Second applies in the home is not the same as finding that the Second only applies in the home, the fantasizing lies of some publications notwithstanding.
It does not guarantee a right to possess any firearm, anywhere, and for any purpose.
People make a lot of this statement, but it means almost nothing. As long as there is at least one regulation on what you can do with a gun--like laws forbidding murder, for instance--this is met. As it turns out, you cannot possess guns for murder, for kidnapping, for terrorism, for fraud, for intimidation....
I don't think urban folks want to move to the right of Scalia.
Scalia didn't say what you think he did.
To assume that their are no limits is like assuming the 1st means people have a Constitutional right to publish kiddy porn.
I readily concede that the law against murder is a limit on gun possession and use. The "no limits" meme is silly in the extreme.
So, as listed in the majority opinions in the SC on gun rights, inner city folks have the right to vote for mayors that support limits that even the far right wing of the court support.
They have the right to vote for dead folks, Santa Clause, the Tooth Fair or the Ghost of Christmas Past. However, they don't have the right to take away the rights of residents. And despite the brave talk of antis in the media and your probably honest confusion, a fair reading of Heller shows that the Court understands there is a right to carry guns in public. Even the justices in CHICAGO realize this, if you listen to the verbal arguments in the Chicago case regarding carrying guns, you will see that: http://www.democraticunderground.com/117242946 .
Certain media outlets are bluffing, but the writing is on the wall. The pretense that the Court said that the Second Amendment only applies inside one's home will die an ugly death.
Edit history
Please sign in to view edit histories.
Recommendations
0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):
90 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations
aren't cops just private individuals in uniform doing a job that is paid for by our taxes?
Tuesday Afternoon
Jun 2012
#3
They are Private Individuals Hired by a Collective Group of Private Individuals and as such They
Tuesday Afternoon
Jul 2012
#88
Nobody should carry a gun, unless they have damn good reason for doing so.
Starboard Tack
Jun 2012
#11
So being armed in case of confrontation in order to preserve your life isn't a "damn good reason"?
TPaine7
Jun 2012
#13
I don't think I excel at talking my way out of situations any more than you or anyone else.
Starboard Tack
Jun 2012
#19
Sure killing is nothing to brag about, but no one said anything about bragging.
TPaine7
Jun 2012
#21
We risk our lives every time we get out of bed. Has nothing to do with carrying guns.
Starboard Tack
Jun 2012
#26
Why do you refuse to apply your analysis to the other branch--the one I raised?
TPaine7
Jun 2012
#33