Gun Control & RKBA

USD79

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32. Personally, I believe in waiting for the facts to come out.

Thu Jul 5, 2012, 10:31 PM

Jul 2012

As an attorney, I have had ample experience in watching a media lynch mob fill the ignorant masses with inflammatory "facts", that were proven to be false at trial. I don't know the facts of this case, but I'm unwilling to come to a conclusion based on the result that I want because of media reports. BTW, the standard is "beyond a reasonable doubt", not a preponderance of the evidence. That standard is for a civil trial. And I must say, you are apparently willing to make baseless conclusions without setting forth your basis for these conclusions. PS: judgment has no e.

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FLORIDA: Concealed Weapons Permit Holder Shoots, Kills Armed Robber. [View all] GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 OP

wonder how long before the usual suspects chime in... Clames Jul 2012 #1

You sure got that right...thank you for reason.. movonne Jul 2012 #2

I'm sure a bicycle tyre would have sufficed. AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #22

C'MON Meiko Jul 2012 #3

Notice how short the article is? GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #4

Such incidents get longer articles only if there is a question about the use of lethal force. ... spin Jul 2012 #5

There is nothing odd about being a progressive or liberal and supporting the private ownership AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #9

Thanks. I agree with your comment ... spin Jul 2012 #11

I agree Meiko Jul 2012 #17

Damn those rude toters!!!! Lurks Often Jul 2012 #6

Pro-gunners and anecdotal evidence: like chlamydia and gonorrhea! DanTex Jul 2012 #7

Why are you attacking an argument no-one made? Bored? n/t PavePusher Jul 2012 #10

How are statistics collected for predatory criminals that do not attack potential victims? SkatmanRoth Jul 2012 #12

I'd be very curious Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #13

About half of those are suicides. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #14

I was told in EMT school Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #25

Sounds about right. Many suicide "attempts" are really cries for help. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #26

You are counting suicides to get to that 78 or 79 daily total. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #15

According to experts on suicide, gun availability is a significant risk factor for suicide. DanTex Jul 2012 #18

How many of those were killed by a CCW holder? GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #16

Since there is no comprehensive data on crimes committed by CCers, we don't know. DanTex Jul 2012 #19

Texas keeps complete records and publishes them. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #23

This post was alerted on and allowed to stand by jury vote of 4/2. ohiosmith Jul 2012 #21

Hypocritical post title of the year goes to... Clames Jul 2012 #24

Not that I think you actually care, but for others reading this, TPaine7 Jul 2012 #35

Lucky gunner baser toter rude bastard. ileus Jul 2012 #8

Tragic waste of life slackmaster Jul 2012 #20

Show a little humanity and common sense! DrewFlorida Jul 2012 #27

You have judged Zimmerman without a trial. N/T GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #28

Yes I have. DrewFlorida Jul 2012 #29

I have a phrase for you gejohnston Jul 2012 #30

As am I. permatex Jul 2012 #31

Just for your information! DrewFlorida Jul 2012 #47

You keep bringing up OJ permatex Jul 2012 #48

You left out the O J Simpson trial. DrewFlorida Jul 2012 #33

the phrase is "trial by media" gejohnston Jul 2012 #36

You have the right to your opinion. DrewFlorida Jul 2012 #40

Personally, I believe in waiting for the facts to come out. USD79 Jul 2012 #32

I'm sure as an attorney! DrewFlorida Jul 2012 #34

wrong. gejohnston Jul 2012 #37

Wrong! DrewFlorida Jul 2012 #43

Since you have convicted him without a trial oneshooter Jul 2012 #45

You confuse the role of social judgment and criminal judgment! DrewFlorida Jul 2012 #46

Welcome to the Guns forum (aka Gungeon)... DanTex Jul 2012 #38

Well said! DrewFlorida Jul 2012 #39

What do you consider "well said" in that post? Marengo Jul 2012 #49

He'll only have trouble if he confuses his opinions with "facts"... Clames Jul 2012 #41

I will defend all of my positions. DrewFlorida Jul 2012 #42

In that case, your actions will set you apart from the ManiacJoe Jul 2012 #44