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In reply to the discussion: UPDATE: Texas EZ Trip Shooting Of Drunk [View all]gejohnston
(17,502 posts)157. I read it, and I read the original article.
One thing.
2007 Stand Your Ground law which "abolishes the duty to retreat if the defendant can show he: (1) had a right to be present at the location where deadly force was used; (2) did not provoke the person against whom deadly force was used; and (3) was not engaged in criminal activity at the time deadly force was used,"
not relevant because the shooter retreated. Let me repeat The shooter retreated to the parking lot.
Police said the man, who was in his 30s, walked into EZ Trip Food Store shortly before 4 p.m. and slapped a customer across the face. He chased the customeroutside before walking back inside the store and hitting another customer.
The fight continued outside, where the second customer pulled out a handgun and shot the man, police said. The man stumbled back inside the store before being taken to Baylor University Medical Center at Dallas, where he was pronounced dead. Police did not release his name Thursday.
The fight continued outside, where the second customer pulled out a handgun and shot the man, police said. The man stumbled back inside the store before being taken to Baylor University Medical Center at Dallas, where he was pronounced dead. Police did not release his name Thursday.
Of course, if the witnesses disagreed with your preconceived view, they would be blood thirsty rednecks. I'll take the police full investigation, thank you.
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No surprise that you would turn to outright lying to support your anti-gun agenda...
cherokeeprogressive
Jul 2012
#220
Take off your shoe? You have obviously never dealt with real street violence. N/T
GreenStormCloud
Jul 2012
#237
I'd rather see someone who is able handle these things without a gun. Just because you choose
Hoyt
Jul 2012
#152
A drunk who can be handled without killing them. Gee Hoyt, I didn't know you
shadowrider
Jul 2012
#155
Were you there? No. You just assume some guy with a gun is honest when he says "I was afraid."
Hoyt
Jul 2012
#156
You're putting words in my mouth. Nowhere on this thread have I opined on this
shadowrider
Jul 2012
#159
"I wasn't there, it's why I'll leave it up to the cops to decide." Wise words your interlocutor...
friendly_iconoclast
Jul 2012
#177
I just like to occasionaly confirm that the limits here are different than the limits elsewhere....
PavePusher
Jul 2012
#302
In the other thread, I pointed out that the referenced article was lying about that.
PavePusher
Jul 2012
#53
Which is not at all equal to the other statement, which was a pure invention. n/t
PavePusher
Jul 2012
#110
He wasn't trying to pick a fight, he WAS fighting. He WAS assaulting someone.
aikoaiko
Jul 2012
#301
Not a rowdy drunk that was singing loudly out of tune or pissing on mailboxes
4th law of robotics
Jul 2012
#36
He may very well have been still trying to get away but was unable to at that time
permatex
Jul 2012
#113
Why should lawful persons EVER be required to retreat in the face of criminal action?
PavePusher
Jul 2012
#127
If you are referring to the events in my life, I am satisfied with the results
ProgressiveProfessor
Jul 2012
#224
Can you, with 100% accuracy, and a guarantee of compensation for failure....
PavePusher
Jul 2012
#246
A person used force to end a violent, potentially lethal attack on themself.
PavePusher
Jul 2012
#245
You do know that the great majority of gunshot wounds do not result in death, yes?
PavePusher
Jul 2012
#57
The witness statement, "...not worth a life..." is his judgement and would not be allowed in court.
GreenStormCloud
Jul 2012
#238
I don't have your options. At 58 with health problems, the last thing I'm going to
shadowrider
Jul 2012
#169
If you try your method of self-defense in a real street fight you will get your ass whipped...
GreenStormCloud
Jul 2012
#239
I wasn't referring specifically to this thread. And I don't have a side.
Starboard Tack
Jul 2012
#271
I don't give a rat's ass about ALEC's well being, or the NRA's, or any other right wing org.
Starboard Tack
Jul 2012
#281
"Are you suggesting that all citizens carry...?" No-one is suggesting any such thing, of course.
PavePusher
Jul 2012
#266
Showing a belligerent individual who isn't thinking clearly that you have lot's of cash on hand
4th law of robotics
Jul 2012
#39
Effective your view of what is appropriate is very dependent on the victim
ProgressiveProfessor
Jul 2012
#212
And yet, somehow, the first attacked customer survived his or her brutal beating...
enki23
Jul 2012
#34
I can't possibly take anyone seriously when they write something like what you did.
enki23
Jul 2012
#217
1. What evidence do you have that the attacks were of the same level and ferocity?
PavePusher
Jul 2012
#65
"the attacker made a bad life decision and will suffer the consequences of his actions."
geckosfeet
Jul 2012
#251
And the guy gets to beat on you for five minutes until the cops get there.
GreenStormCloud
Jul 2012
#255
If there was no stand your ground law what would have happened? Does having a gun present
upaloopa
Jul 2012
#276