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ProgressiveProfessor

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79. We had something along those lines happen to us when we first moved into Wash DC

Reply to 4th law of robotics (Reply #30)

Sun Jul 8, 2012, 09:34 AM

Jul 2012

Short background: Home invasion robbery. One perp injured by me, the other shot by my wife. Was before DC banned handguns (long time back)

Dead perp's mother came with a "delegation" to discuss with me why I had felt it necessary to kill her boy (her words, not mine).

She had assumed we were white so when my African American wife opened the door the originally thought she had the wrong address. After being assured she was at the right house, she came in and sat down with my wife, while the "delegation" waited outside. They talked as mothers, something us guys will never fully understand. My wife told her what had happened and how she had no choice under the circumstances. The mother talked about her son, and over time was able to acknowledge he had strayed from the church etc. In the end, while still grieving, she got some closure and that was the last of it.

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Man Kills Attacker at Northeast Dallas Convenience Store in Stand-Your-Ground-Style Shooting [View all] jpak Jul 2012 OP

Much better to let the assailant go on and kill someone, I suppose? mvccd1000 Jul 2012 #1

In Texas - Drunk and Disorderly = Death Sentence jpak Jul 2012 #4

Incomplete statement of facts. Remmah2 Jul 2012 #14

Not D&D, A&B. (Assault & Battery) GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #44

what a bullshit justification for cold blooded murder. bowens43 Jul 2012 #17

You want to know what is really going to piss you off? oneshooter Jul 2012 #64

Fine. Take the gun out of the situation. Drunk guy starts beating on innocent person Common Sense Party Jul 2012 #66

Shooter DID retreat, drunk chased him, still punching him. Not murder - Self defense. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #72

He has to prove more than that. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #2

Going on a drunken rampage and punching out strangers carries a risk of getting shot slackmaster Jul 2012 #3

If he was a diabetic suffering from low blood sugar - would this be justified as well? jpak Jul 2012 #5

I've never heard of a diabetic with low blood sugar punching people out slackmaster Jul 2012 #6

From wedMD: discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #8

Sorry about your wife. I hope she has it well-managed. I know several diabetics, both 1s and 2s. slackmaster Jul 2012 #10

It's very well managed, it's just expensive. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #35

As a person who is moderately hypoglycemic and who has experienced Simo 1939_1940 Jul 2012 #32

I don't think that comment was intended to be serious 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #34

Yes. When someone is threatening your life... GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #45

Yes. A mentally impaired person trying to kill you is still trying to kill you. NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #7

Unfortunatly this has nothing to do with the facts of the case. Remmah2 Jul 2012 #9

It's just an extremely weak attempt at distraction, something jpak often treats us to slackmaster Jul 2012 #11

Yes! bongbong Jul 2012 #41

So you downgrade the criminal's Assault & Battery to "looks at me cross-eyed"? GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #46

Our late Canadian zampolit was *far* better at excusing criminal behavior then you'll ever be: friendly_iconoclast Jul 2012 #62

For bongbong getting repeatedly beaten = "look at me cross-eyed" aikoaiko Jul 2012 #73

LOL bongbong Jul 2012 #81

Laugh away while you become the anti-gun poo flinger with a losing track record. aikoaiko Jul 2012 #82

What if, and stay with me here 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #29

If it were me, I'd offer Mr. Piper a piece of bubblegum slackmaster Jul 2012 #31

From the standpoint of his victim, it doesn't matter what his problem is. AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #57

I'm a type one diabetic as is my son and neither of us has ever punched anyone out when rl6214 Jul 2012 #69

Did you expect any better from the OP? oneshooter Jul 2012 #77

No, not really. rl6214 Jul 2012 #80

that is sad... I feel sorry for you. bowens43 Jul 2012 #18

As usual your only response is a personal attack slackmaster Jul 2012 #19

Then they whine and cry to the admins. Remmah2 Jul 2012 #37

I prefer public excoriation slackmaster Jul 2012 #48

It's worse than Thanksgiving with my in laws. Remmah2 Jul 2012 #51

You might see it differently had the drunk person been one of your children or a person who ladjf Jul 2012 #21

You might see it differently if the drunk person had been attacking one of your children or a person slackmaster Jul 2012 #24

Both of our statements could well be true. My point was that had the drunkard been well ladjf Jul 2012 #25

Every person ever killed has a mother who loved them 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #30

This is a rather interesting point. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #50

We had something along those lines happen to us when we first moved into Wash DC ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #79

I would probably be remorseful that my child, who I equipped to deal with the world AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #58

Another bloodthirsty gun hero (with a CCW license). DanTex Jul 2012 #12

again, what does this have to do with the facts of the case? Remmah2 Jul 2012 #13

Are you capable of writing multiple sentences? nt DanTex Jul 2012 #15

An even further attempt at distraction from the discussion at hand. Remmah2 Jul 2012 #28

Hey, three sentences! Awesome! You were saying something about "facts"... DanTex Jul 2012 #33

Do you have anything to add to the discussion? Remmah2 Jul 2012 #36

Wow bongbong Jul 2012 #42

And here you come adding your usual less-than-nothing to the debate. Clames Jul 2012 #55

Avoid drunk people . . . by staying out of quickee marts? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #27

hopefully this jackass will spend a long time in prison (but I doubt it). bowens43 Jul 2012 #16

You drive a car... Clames Jul 2012 #61

Self-defense is NOT murder. N/T GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #63

And another idiotic drive-by post rl6214 Jul 2012 #70

How can the jackass spend Jenoch Jul 2012 #83

The poster you replied to.... PavePusher Jul 2012 #84

So shooting someone Rabid_Rabbit Jul 2012 #20

So you would have shot the man because you thought that perhaps he might beat or kill ladjf Jul 2012 #23

No I would not have shot the man Rabid_Rabbit Jul 2012 #26

The next time someone Oneka Jul 2012 #40

Perhaps I misread the post. I wasn't aware that the shooter was being assaulted. nt ladjf Jul 2012 #60

It's in the second paragraph of the OP: Common Sense Party Jul 2012 #67

Judge, jury and executor Spoonman Jul 2012 #49

Who gives a shit what the reason is permatex Jul 2012 #53

Self defense isn't an exercise of extra-judicial power. It is just self defense. Try again. AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #59

not this Individual's fault that society failed the Drunk. Society needs to put in place Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #76

More like legalized suicide 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #22

The drunk should not have followed the guy outside hack89 Jul 2012 #38

That's exactly how I see it slackmaster Jul 2012 #39

The shooter tried to retreat. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #43

The DO blog seems to have lied. PavePusher Jul 2012 #47

Well there are different kinds of truth 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #54

Just so everyone knows the source of this article.. MicaelS Jul 2012 #52

Seems like the usual type of highly suspect sources that the anti-gun religionists use. Clames Jul 2012 #56

I don't suppose he'll be beating anymore innocent citizens. ileus Jul 2012 #65

Why didn't the guy getting beaten by the drunk just respond to him in a strong, authoritative voice? Common Sense Party Jul 2012 #68

Perhaps Oneka Jul 2012 #71

I'll wait for a few more facts to come out before passing judgment. aikoaiko Jul 2012 #74

The attitude seems to be sarisataka Jul 2012 #78

Shoot the witnesses too. Tejas Jul 2012 #75