Gun Control & RKBA

NewMoonTherian

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60. I agree. My main concern...

Sun Jul 8, 2012, 02:30 PM

Jul 2012

was that, after opening NICS to private sellers, there would then be a push to require that the sale be permanently recorded, or that guns be registered to their owners. As long as that isn't the case, I'd be very happy with NICS for private sellers.

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State needs sensible gun laws to deal with violence [View all] SecularMotion Jul 2012 OP

So what happens when... Clames Jul 2012 #1

The author of that article making a false choice Hells Liberal Jul 2012 #11

I don't own a gun ,but I'd fight to the death orpupilofnature57 Jul 2012 #52

We need sensible doctor control. Remmah2 Jul 2012 #2

many members of this forum want it to be against the law for a doctor to mention guns to you CreekDog Jul 2012 #3

Not true permatex Jul 2012 #7

not true, i had a thread on this not so long ago and most members supported the gag rule CreekDog Jul 2012 #8

Kindly provide a link to the thread and if I'm wrong then I will apologize. permatex Jul 2012 #9

wife went to the dr's last week .... littlewolf Jul 2012 #63

Good for her. permatex Jul 2012 #64

I have absolutely no problem with a doctor asking me if I own firearms ... spin Jul 2012 #14

at the time of the incident I read several articles about this HankyDub Jul 2012 #23

Welcome to DU. I understand your point but ... spin Jul 2012 #33

None of those things are any doctor's business. None. NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #50

You're right, "You can't pursue happiness if you are dead or injured." That justifies self-defense AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #4

Basic gun safety should be taught in public schools slackmaster Jul 2012 #5

And yet some still yak on about self-defense... TreasonousBastard Jul 2012 #6

I am impressed that the Kellerman study was accurately quoted. ManiacJoe Jul 2012 #10

Amen, Joe! Hells Liberal Jul 2012 #12

There you go bringing facts into this discussion. Clames Jul 2012 #13

That's better? TreasonousBastard Jul 2012 #15

Yes, if "better" is defined as "less useless". ManiacJoe Jul 2012 #16

That was Kellermann's first gun study, from 1986. DanTex Jul 2012 #22

IANSA? Really? Clames Jul 2012 #30

Actually, that was a peer reviewed study. DanTex Jul 2012 #42

Your losing streak? Clames Jul 2012 #59

In addition to which... Euromutt Jul 2012 #48

Violent crime has been dropping for years in WA. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #17

Ignorance again sarisataka Jul 2012 #18

Of course there is a gun show loophole. DanTex Jul 2012 #19

It applies to gun shows, houses or trunks of cars sarisataka Jul 2012 #20

True, it's not just gun shows. But it's still a loophole. A wider loophole than just gun shows. DanTex Jul 2012 #21

If non-FFLs were given access to NCIS and held accountable for sales to prohibited parties, the... slackmaster Jul 2012 #24

Couple that with a "safe harbor" provision for sellers that use it, and I'm all for it. friendly_iconoclast Jul 2012 #27

True. But how can we know what private seller sold the criminal the gun... NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #51

Every gun sold in the USA since 1968 can be traced to its original buyer from its serial number slackmaster Jul 2012 #57

I agree. My main concern... NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #60

that's why it's more properly called the "private seller" loophole HankyDub Jul 2012 #25

Then help open up the instant background check system to non-FFLs. You want it used, do you not? friendly_iconoclast Jul 2012 #28

i've got a feeling HankyDub Jul 2012 #35

There is a simple answer. oneshooter Jul 2012 #37

There would have to be some safeguards to prevent the system from being misused slackmaster Jul 2012 #58

I was an FFL for over 10 years Meiko Jul 2012 #61

Then this applies sarisataka Jul 2012 #29

so you're proving HankyDub Jul 2012 #36

For brevity sarisataka Jul 2012 #47

What slackmaster said sarisataka Jul 2012 #26

It's a loophole. DanTex Jul 2012 #38

I think you are missing the point. gejohnston Jul 2012 #40

Umm... congress votes for all laws. Are you sure you are a teacher? DanTex Jul 2012 #41

no shit, I am using the technical term loophole gejohnston Jul 2012 #43

There is no technical about it sarisataka Jul 2012 #46

Patently false. Clames Jul 2012 #31

There is no loophole. ManiacJoe Jul 2012 #34

Indeed. Marinedem Jul 2012 #32

The RKBA assures the right to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. ileus Jul 2012 #39

"So what... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #44

And another one of your wonderful posts...with not comment rl6214 Jul 2012 #45

If your interested... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #49

technically, it could be argued that the OP did start the discussion by posting an article worthy of Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #53

I mostly agree. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #54

I haven't made an alert since Early January. System seems absurdly pointless to me but, Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #55

Yeah discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #56

If your what is interested... rl6214 Jul 2012 #62

Should be the... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #65

I know... rl6214 Jul 2012 #66

I know... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #67