Gun Control & RKBA

safeinOhio

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7. True in my viewpoint.

Fri Dec 30, 2011, 09:40 AM

Dec 2011

The AWB was in place and didn't destroy the 2nd. Concealed-carry reciprocity, is a states right issue rather than a 2nd and the others are or have been in effect and the 2nd is as strong, if not stronger than ever before.
Ole Wayne and the NRA use those issues as hyperbole to try and get rid of the half-Irish President. They love Newt and Ronny Raygun and they have done worse.

An antiquated privilege would be to go back 20 or 30 years when there were more restrictions than there are now and far fewer gun owners and very few allowed to carry concealed.

The NRA is run by political right wing hacks like Wayne Lapierre, Grover Norquist and Ted Nugent. That's a fact, jack.

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NRA Raises $200 Million as Gun Lobby Toasters Burn Logo on Bread [View all] ellisonz Dec 2011 OP

I don't think Obama would veto anything that had anti-gun language in it... krispos42 Dec 2011 #1

None of those issues would safeinOhio Dec 2011 #2

In your viewpoint... krispos42 Dec 2011 #5

True in my viewpoint. safeinOhio Dec 2011 #7

What other Constitutional Rights are "states rights" issues? PavePusher Dec 2011 #13

I , and most others, safeinOhio Dec 2011 #16

SCOTUS has declared that "keep" is a fundamental Right. PavePusher Dec 2011 #19

"would seem to indicate" safeinOhio Dec 2011 #26

You are arguing something I haven't even asserted. PavePusher Dec 2011 #27

Every day is a good day, here. safeinOhio Dec 2011 #43

Fundamental does not mean absolute. PavePusher Dec 2011 #46

Where do you get from the decision that 'keep' is unregulated? X_Digger Dec 2011 #44

The examples you have given here pipoman Dec 2011 #74

The AWB was NOT a ban. It was a merely "feel good" law... spin Dec 2011 #18

IMHO I think the gun mania of this country... ellisonz Dec 2011 #52

No, it made manufacturers change features or model names.. X_Digger Dec 2011 #55

What do you think that says about the integrity of the gun manufacturers? ellisonz Dec 2011 #57

I guess it says the gun manufacturers are burf Dec 2011 #58

They met the letter of the law. A boneheaded law. X_Digger Dec 2011 #62

You have very low expectations for corporate responsibility. n/t ellisonz Dec 2011 #63

Well isn't that special.. X_Digger Dec 2011 #68

A company should respect the intention of the Federal government... ellisonz Dec 2011 #72

I'm endorsing following the law as written X_Digger Dec 2011 #76

If the intent was to have companies stop manufacturing semi-auto firearms.... PavePusher Jan 2012 #103

Read further down the article you linked to... spin Dec 2011 #61

Thats because the arms manufacturers are snakes... ellisonz Dec 2011 #65

Virtually every law and restriction pipoman Dec 2011 #75

No it doesn't irk me in the least... spin Dec 2011 #84

And this is a good thing? ellisonz Dec 2011 #87

"damn things wouldn't be in production" -- did you forget? Production never stopped. X_Digger Dec 2011 #88

You certainly are upset with people for complying with the law. PavePusher Dec 2011 #90

The AWB was concieved and passed during a moral panic. friendly_iconoclast Dec 2011 #93

The War on Terror has contributed far more to a militarized police force... spin Dec 2011 #91

Still insist on following Josh Sugarmann's failed line? friendly_iconoclast Dec 2011 #92

Italian proverb: Simo 1939_1940 Jan 2012 #105

I think Bloomberg is jealous and a whiney fuck of an Authoritarian. PavePusher Dec 2011 #3

All bets are off. safeinOhio Dec 2011 #8

Did I say I thought anyone would try to take away guns? PavePusher Dec 2011 #12

You are the one that said safeinOhio Dec 2011 #17

I don't believe in conspiracies rl6214 Dec 2011 #4

Their power could be curtailed in the blink of an eye slackmaster Dec 2011 #6

Precisely. It's the only issue I can think of where the party is horrifically out of step with Fair Witness Dec 2011 #9

You are welcome to your own opinion but not your own facts safeinOhio Dec 2011 #29

That is a horse-shit poll and I think you know why. Fair Witness Dec 2011 #33

Like I said, safeinOhio Dec 2011 #36

This one (from your own link) shows a drastic DECLINE in support of more 'control' Fair Witness Dec 2011 #39

Yup , safeinOhio Dec 2011 #41

the question I always had about this poll is gejohnston Dec 2011 #50

Polls of gun owners show that a majority of them safeinOhio Dec 2011 #73

most of us expressed the same here gejohnston Dec 2011 #77

"Confusion to the enemy!...." SteveW Dec 2011 #79

What I REALLY want to know is Glassunion Dec 2011 #10

Would you settle for Eric Estrada? slackmaster Dec 2011 #11

As a Democrat and NRA member I hate the over-the-top language from LaPierre and most of the NRA. aikoaiko Dec 2011 #14

If Obama comes out for rrneck Dec 2011 #15

I partially agree... ToolMaker Dec 2011 #21

Who said he was against... ellisonz Dec 2011 #53

Who said he was against... rrneck Dec 2011 #54

Well much of the rhetoric here that is so popular out there... ellisonz Dec 2011 #59

and a third can't name any... rrneck Dec 2011 #64

Definitely not political cartoons... ellisonz Dec 2011 #67

It's about as good as it's going to get right now. nt rrneck Dec 2011 #69

how is this remotely relevant? gejohnston Dec 2011 #70

How is it not relevant? n/t ellisonz Dec 2011 #71

I fail to see how gejohnston Dec 2011 #78

"Perhaps it was more of a written by the dim for the clueless." ellisonz Dec 2011 #83

Please, enlighten us of the loopholes of which you speak. n/t oneshooter Dec 2011 #85

It's not hard to write such legislation... ellisonz Dec 2011 #86

Keep those NRA royalties rollin' in! nt SteveW Dec 2011 #80

$650 for a toaster???? WTF Remmah2 Dec 2011 #20

An "assault" or "tactical" toaster would go for $1500 and sell in the millions. Hoyt Dec 2011 #22

No, because that would be stupid. Callisto32 Dec 2011 #24

Grenade launcher, assault toast thrower, it's all the same to him. PavePusher Dec 2011 #28

Just like the guns that folks seem to covet for some irrational reason. Hoyt Dec 2011 #30

More like the firearms you have a irrational fear of, for no reason. n/t oneshooter Dec 2011 #45

We've given you plenty of rational reasons. PavePusher Dec 2011 #47

Maybe not, burf Dec 2011 #60

compared to Brady and VPC gejohnston Dec 2011 #23

Hope that never happens. Guns in public is a regressive cause, no matter how many votes it attracts. Hoyt Dec 2011 #31

hope what never happens? gejohnston Dec 2011 #35

Gun-control must be a "conservative cause." It's worked so well for the Right! nt SteveW Dec 2011 #81

This message was self-deleted by its author Simo 1939_1940 Dec 2011 #94

I think you'd like seeing the bumper of my car. Simo 1939_1940 Dec 2011 #95

Where I'm from, you usually see confederate flag, "insured by S&W," W, and NRA sticker on vehicles. Hoyt Dec 2011 #98

Glad I'm not from Georgia gejohnston Dec 2011 #99

Dick Cheney country? Hoyt Jan 2012 #101

Somehow, I doubt the entire state is represented by a single man. PavePusher Jan 2012 #102

it is also gejohnston Jan 2012 #104

We sure are lucky the Colonists didn't have any guns, otherwise we might have our own country Fair Witness Dec 2011 #37

"Guns in public is a regressive cause..........." Simo 1939_1940 Dec 2011 #97

The NRA is a bunch of right wing idiots. Who will lie to raise money. Hate them. Logical Dec 2011 #25

I recently joined, not because I think LaPierre is a good guy, but because I'm interested in protect Fair Witness Dec 2011 #34

I think you are supporting a right wing group. Like if you joined pro-life group or Logical Dec 2011 #38

Yes, it is my decision. Fair Witness Dec 2011 #40

?? What does this have to do with the NRA...... Logical Dec 2011 #42

Sooooo, let's turn into a more centrist group. By joining. PavePusher Dec 2011 #48

I don't think it would work. The NRA would lose too many members if they started.... Logical Dec 2011 #49

maybe gejohnston Dec 2011 #51

Correct. The NRA is not about inclusiveness. ellisonz Dec 2011 #56

Only 1/2 royalty payment for this one... SteveW Dec 2011 #82

Stereotyping. Broad-brushing. Pigeon-holing. PavePusher Dec 2011 #89

Notice that the latest scary buzz terminology Simo 1939_1940 Dec 2011 #96

I think how the NRA spends its money speaks for itself. n/t ellisonz Dec 2011 #100

I think LaPierre is fearmongering to raise revenue. AtheistCrusader Dec 2011 #32

I would bet... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2011 #66