Gun Control & RKBA

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97. Number Two question needs to be reframed so that we educate and prevent those

Reply to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #66)

Sun Jul 8, 2012, 11:28 PM

Jul 2012

bad decisions.

We need to fund social programs and Mental and Emotional help should be destigmatized and available.

We need to help people rather than throwing them in prison.

People need to value theirselves and not keep getting pushed into corners whereby they have reduced their options to the point that desperation leads them to make those bad decisions.

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Please select your view [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 OP

As a firearms owner and CCP-holder, I can assure you there are too many .... Scuba Jul 2012 #1

That's been my experience as well. Recognizing/admitting it is laudable. Hoyt Jul 2012 #2

Please elaborate on the percentage... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #5

The only percentage he has permatex Jul 2012 #7

And you know this because? Scuba Jul 2012 #9

Because according to him permatex Jul 2012 #11

Better check the thread over... the "he" you're referring to is me. Scuba Jul 2012 #13

No permatex Jul 2012 #14

I have no idea what percentage, but even one is "too many".... Scuba Jul 2012 #8

I'm aware... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #15

Perhaps one in 10 or 20, but my sample size is too small to be of much use... Scuba Jul 2012 #17

Wouldn't a "closet vigilante"... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #19

As I said before, I have no idea.... Scuba Jul 2012 #20

IMO... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #21

And what aspect would that be? I can't find the SOP. Scuba Jul 2012 #22

The SOP: discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #24

Judging by your post Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #49

You read my post correctly. Welcome to DU. Scuba Jul 2012 #50

Thanks NT Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #55

I get this mental image... krispos42 Jul 2012 #78

Can I get an idea of... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #4

If that is the case hack89 Jul 2012 #16

Citation, please. Scuba Jul 2012 #18

Here you go hack89 Jul 2012 #48

Sorry, this doesn't support your claim; it doesn't show number of shootings. Scuba Jul 2012 #51

So there were more shootings but fewer deaths? OK. hack89 Jul 2012 #59

Data I've seen suggest there is little change in shooting related crimes.... Scuba Jul 2012 #61

There are fewer people being killed by guns hack89 Jul 2012 #62

Well, George Zimmerman is one too many. Scuba Jul 2012 #70

Here you go permatex Jul 2012 #72

Here you go hack89 Jul 2012 #77

I vote for #2, safeinOhio Jul 2012 #3

Every legal conceal carrier I know permatex Jul 2012 #6

Firearm owners are no different than car owners or Hummel figurine collectors in that respect slackmaster Jul 2012 #10

The second option... Lizzie Poppet Jul 2012 #12

Are we so materialistic and shallow rrneck Jul 2012 #23

In a way. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #25

Um, gee, on their actions? Scuba Jul 2012 #26

This forum is about gun control/rights discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #30

we can judge people by their actions/reactions.n/t Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #27

but we don't discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #31

Lots of folks - - - Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #32

No argument here :) n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #37

What we do. rrneck Jul 2012 #36

judging others based on their stuff discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #40

I agree. rrneck Jul 2012 #43

Many have bought the lie... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #44

If we assume that the primary goal of government rrneck Jul 2012 #45

Questions for you :) discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #53

That's how (successful) societies have been run rrneck Jul 2012 #56

But still the question remains... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #63

Equitibility and porn have a lot in common I guess. rrneck Jul 2012 #71

Honest??? discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #73

+1000 rrneck Jul 2012 #74

I first heard that... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #76

As with any group, there will be some bad apples Bluzmann57 Jul 2012 #28

I don't much care for... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #33

Problem is: It ONLY takes one. e.g. Look at the chain-reaction that George Zimmerman set off. patrice Jul 2012 #29

"...it's not the guns themselves..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #34

How does numbers and types play into this? Clames Jul 2012 #42

Too generalized group just us Jul 2012 #35

responsible gun owners discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #38

As a non-hunting gun owner... MicaelS Jul 2012 #112

No biggie but... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #113

Ouch, sorry about that. Got in too big a hurry. MicaelS Jul 2012 #114

And if I remember correctly permatex Jul 2012 #39

so you use a Ruger number 1? gejohnston Jul 2012 #41

Automatic hand guns? You mean as in a Stechkin, Schnellfeuer, or the like? Marengo Jul 2012 #46

Welcome. Good example of a truly responsible gun owner. Wish more had your view. Hoyt Jul 2012 #80

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha permatex Jul 2012 #85

He or she makes more sense than you guys. And gun owners like that Hoyt Jul 2012 #88

Your just as uninformed as he/she is permatex Jul 2012 #90

Man, you crack me up. l'll give you that. Hoyt Jul 2012 #91

Thank you permatex Jul 2012 #93

Exactly. The 2nd Amendment does not allow you guys to "hunt" citizens. Hoyt Jul 2012 #94

Thats so fucking stupid permatex Jul 2012 #95

That's funny. I don't care how many guns you carry. Hoyt Jul 2012 #96

yup permatex Jul 2012 #98

"Reputation? " Hoyt Jul 2012 #99

If you don't get it by now permatex Jul 2012 #100

Yes you do. Clames Jul 2012 #102

At least I can walk down streets -- even dark ones -- without a gun. Hoyt Jul 2012 #107

Good for you permatex Jul 2012 #109

I do all the time. Clames Jul 2012 #117

Most intelligent people don't carry guns because they know the odds are so low of a situation. Hoyt Jul 2012 #121

Many intelligent people carry guns. Clames Jul 2012 #123

Who's using "assault rifles" for hunting? PavePusher Jul 2012 #87

IMI Desert Eagle, semi-automatic handgun oneshooter Jul 2012 #89

IMO it's self evident Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #47

Exactly sarisataka Jul 2012 #57

Many of those... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #75

But what we don't have Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #79

the honest man does not need laws and the criminal will not follow them discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #82

Options two an four are not exclusive. Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #52

What's this... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #54

True. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2012 #68

Any complete answer would involve qualifying one's own... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #69

I see by the votes that the line has been drawn at the usual place. While, I may have worded #2 Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #58

I see the real issue... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #66

Number Two question needs to be reframed so that we educate and prevent those Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #97

I must confess... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #116

Once the criminal has learned that he can resort Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #122

I can't believe I'm saying this........ wandy Jul 2012 #60

Thanks for contributing. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #64

Wouldn't that depend on the size of you're kazoo? wandy Jul 2012 #65

Wouldn't that be a personal matter? discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #67

Guns! We need more GUNS! bongbong Jul 2012 #81

grow up discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #83

Sounds to me he has grown up. Or, has always had a mature attitude toward the dang things. Hoyt Jul 2012 #92

Only you would believe that permatex Jul 2012 #101

You own guns yourself... Clames Jul 2012 #103

I think it is painfully clear permatex Jul 2012 #104

Definitely not here promoting more guns, more carriers, relaxed laws, etc. Hoyt Jul 2012 #106

And yet more guns, permatex Jul 2012 #108

Before Zimmy shot unarmed teen, he was just like you guys -- supposedly a "law abiding" gun carrier. Hoyt Jul 2012 #110

I knew it permatex Jul 2012 #111

Disruption bongbong Jul 2012 #119

Do you have anything intelligent to add? permatex Jul 2012 #125

Sure I do bongbong Jul 2012 #134

For you as well discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #137

Excellent addition to the discourse. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #84

finally permatex Jul 2012 #86

Gun religion bongbong Jul 2012 #133

I'm sure #2 is the reality SecularMotion Jul 2012 #105

Well, if you're "sure"... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #115

That would require effort... Clames Jul 2012 #118

I'm sorry if you feel insulted by my post. SecularMotion Jul 2012 #120

No you are not. Clames Jul 2012 #124

an aside handmade34 Jul 2012 #126

Personally... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #127

I see it all... handmade34 Jul 2012 #129

Oh my! discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #131

Took the final option because I honestly have no idea. n/t NRaleighLiberal Jul 2012 #128

Why are so many posters voting for #2. Aren't all gun owners supposed to be right-wing nuts? AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #130

The only logical conclusion is... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #132

The poll is flawed and cannot prove anything. Glassunion Jul 2012 #135

Everyone... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #136