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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Mon Jul 9, 2012, 11:41 AM Jul 2012

The politics of ‘Stand your ground’ law [View all]

When Gov. Rick Scott’s Task Force on Citizen Safety and Protection meets on Tuesday, the controversial “Stand Your Ground” law from State Rep. Dennis Baxley, R-Ocala, will be in the crosshairs of public scrutiny.

And for good reason. Following passage in 2005 in Florida, similar laws were adopted in approximately two dozen states, with the help of the conservative American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) and the National Rifle Association (NRA). These state laws, according to The Wall Street Journal, have resulted in an average 50 percent increase in “justifiable homicides” in the years after their passage, while other states experience little or no change.

But Baxley, a task force member, is not simply a member of the Florida Legislature with expertise or interest in policies related to “citizen safety and protection.” A closer review of his relationship with the gun lobby underscores that he should be considered a representative of the National Rifle Association (NRA) on the task force, not of the voters that place him into office.

Baxley himself doesn’t make the distinction, recently telling CNN, “I feel like I’m responding to my constituents when the NRA sits at the table with me.”

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/09/2885128/the-politics-of-stand-your-ground.html#storylink=cpy

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Did these states see an overall rise in homicide? Lizzie Poppet Jul 2012 #1
If this is based on the study that people were widely citing for this stuff... Callisto32 Jul 2012 #2
Thank you. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2012 #5
Overall rise in homicide. DanTex Jul 2012 #9
I remember that one, we discussed it. gejohnston Jul 2012 #12
What are you talking about? DanTex Jul 2012 #13
short memory? gejohnston Jul 2012 #14
I meant about the UCR comment. The study used UCR data. DanTex Jul 2012 #15
the laws intent were never gejohnston Jul 2012 #16
Blah blah blah... DanTex Jul 2012 #17
I read the study gejohnston Jul 2012 #18
First in my opinion not all homicides are evil ... spin Jul 2012 #22
Thank you for the reply and link! Lizzie Poppet Jul 2012 #27
Justifiable homicides are those killings in which the use of lethal force was ruled as justified ... spin Jul 2012 #3
In states without SYG pipoman Jul 2012 #4
It could also be pointed out that in Florida since the SYG law passed violent crime has dropped. ... spin Jul 2012 #6
I believe it is working just as it was intended pipoman Jul 2012 #7
Ummmm...... bongbong Jul 2012 #8
what is the egregious logic error? please point out the error. why is that a false statement and Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #10
Hah! You'll never get a real answer to *any* of your questions from that one... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2012 #26
O.K. If SYG was such a bad idea ... spin Jul 2012 #19
Yawn bongbong Jul 2012 #32
If you could, you would present a reply that would show that I was wrong ... spin Jul 2012 #33
Still spinning bongbong Jul 2012 #38
I think it's hilarious how the talking points of those on the bong are just rl6214 Jul 2012 #29
Personal attack bongbong Jul 2012 #31
Personal attack? rl6214 Jul 2012 #34
Sadly, no bongbong Jul 2012 #35
You'll be sure to point them out as soon as you see them, won't you? rl6214 Jul 2012 #36
Cajones? bongbong Jul 2012 #37
Don't know what the hell you're talking about. rl6214 Jul 2012 #39
Usually bongbong Jul 2012 #40
Yeah, this is a rule, written by you rl6214 Jul 2012 #41
Yes, let's ask the right-wing Republican who wrote the law! DanTex Jul 2012 #11
That's fair ... spin Jul 2012 #20
Homicide. Justified. We have to take this on a case to case basis. n/t Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #21
Very true as many of those who claim a "Stand Your Ground" defense ... spin Jul 2012 #23
exactly my point. Let the system do its job. Let the case go to court. Present the evidence. Hear Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #24
Yup. (n/t) spin Jul 2012 #25
Google dump time rl6214 Jul 2012 #28
Thanks for the kick SecularMotion Jul 2012 #30
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