Gun Control & RKBA

sarisataka

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86. Have you noticed

Wed Jul 11, 2012, 02:26 AM

Jul 2012

how some here screech about 'summary execution' when a citizen shoot a person while committing a crime but is perfectly willing to accept deaths of people who have committed no crimes because they have undesirable views.

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Fast and Furious follow-up: the gun store allegations. [View all] DanTex Jul 2012 OP

Note: An earlier version of this story incorrectly described the 9mm guns as "cop killer." aikoaiko Jul 2012 #1

I see gejohnston Jul 2012 #2

LOL. Breaking news from August 2011! How about we ask Amy Goodman from 2012? DanTex Jul 2012 #3

Of course your post would mean that if more evidence or another credible whistle blower ... spin Jul 2012 #5

Of course. DanTex Jul 2012 #10

And lest we forget permatex Jul 2012 #12

'bothched', how so? BT021 Jul 2012 #21

wrong HankyDub Jul 2012 #29

under the watchful eye and blessing of the ATF gejohnston Jul 2012 #30

Wow, a Republican witch hunt! And there I was thinking you were actually a progressive! DanTex Jul 2012 #31

sorry, the evidence is still stronger gejohnston Jul 2012 #32

BATF told the gun shops to break the law... BT021 Jul 2012 #33

Entrapment? Remmah2 Jul 2012 #39

Correct me if I'm wrong permatex Jul 2012 #41

I did not catch that, but would love to see a follow up. Remmah2 Jul 2012 #56

rational people don't ignore evidence they don't like gejohnston Jul 2012 #7

You mean like the Fortune investigation that you are ignoring? DanTex Jul 2012 #13

I'm not ignoring it at all gejohnston Jul 2012 #14

In other words, you actually have no evidence at all, just rumor and innuendo... DanTex Jul 2012 #15

in other words, you ignore gejohnston Jul 2012 #16

Valid points? From a guy who wasn't even involved with F&F? DanTex Jul 2012 #17

you obviously did not read gejohnston Jul 2012 #18

In the interview, which is from June 15, 2011 creeksneakers2 Jul 2012 #6

He started the website cleanupatf.org gejohnston Jul 2012 #9

I can't speak for all FFL's Meiko Jul 2012 #4

the people at Waco were the wrong religion gejohnston Jul 2012 #8

The religion of the people at WACO creeksneakers2 Jul 2012 #19

Yeah, law enforcement gave koresh 51 days to surrender. Hoyt Jul 2012 #22

Hoyt Meiko Jul 2012 #23

You made the assertion about Waco, I responded. Hoyt Jul 2012 #24

What I said Meiko Jul 2012 #25

Debating Hoyt on Waco permatex Jul 2012 #26

Sounds like blame the victims (dead agents who were guilty of nothing). Hoyt Jul 2012 #27

I rest my case. permatex Jul 2012 #28

The ATF murdered Meiko Jul 2012 #34

They had 51 days to surrender AFTER killing 4 agents. Even McVeigh knew that. Hoyt Jul 2012 #35

By sick and twisted logic that justifies BushII wars. Remmah2 Jul 2012 #36

Still beating that dead horse? permatex Jul 2012 #38

Actually, the day the 4 agents were murdered was not a flashy event. Things turned bad, Hoyt Jul 2012 #45

Hey Hoyt, permatex Jul 2012 #48

McVeigh supposedly thought Koresh was special and set out to avenge for him. Hoyt Jul 2012 #52

And that means what? permatex Jul 2012 #53

Actually, they did not. The ATF and other LE gave Koresh 51 days to surrender. He chose to hole Hoyt Jul 2012 #91

"The ATF did their job. " HALO141 Jul 2012 #90

The intent is not weather the ATF was right or wrong. Remmah2 Jul 2012 #37

Oh yeah. permatex Jul 2012 #40

It's good stuff. Remmah2 Jul 2012 #55

Bingo. Bait and Alert. The New DU3 Video Game. Best Game on The Nets -- Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #68

The ATF is an embarrassment to us no matter which party is in office. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #11

I can agree with that Meiko Jul 2012 #20

Hey Hoyt Meiko Jul 2012 #42

Eye opening to those in the dark. permatex Jul 2012 #43

Probably Meiko Jul 2012 #44

I followed the Ruby Ridge and Waco sieges very closely permatex Jul 2012 #46

See post #47. permatex Jul 2012 #50

You called it Meiko Jul 2012 #63

Just another right wing hit piece that sounds like something neo-Nazis or KKK sympathizers would Hoyt Jul 2012 #47

You did exactly what I predicted you would do. permatex Jul 2012 #49

Of course, I'm not a supporter of armed terrorists or people who side with McVeigh, Beck, KKK, etc. Hoyt Jul 2012 #51

I am on the side of justice permatex Jul 2012 #54

Ask Koresh. He was given 51 days to walk out alive after he murdered agents. He chose not to. Hoyt Jul 2012 #57

Well, once again, permatex Jul 2012 #58

Weaver is/was a racist who wouldn't have gotten in trouble if he hadn't joined Ayran Nation. Hoyt Jul 2012 #59

I'll ask one more time permatex Jul 2012 #61

Sounds like prosecutors screwed up. You got a confirmed racist who trafficked Hoyt Jul 2012 #67

Sure, he was a racist d-bag who made bad decisions. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2012 #64

He hid behind his wife and child. No, it was an example of racist gun nuts gone awry from moment Hoyt Jul 2012 #69

You're very quick to libel those whose political views you disagree with, aren't you? friendly_iconoclast Jul 2012 #71

Are you defending those who sell guns illegally to Ayran Nation, KKK and worse? Hoyt Jul 2012 #72

He did not sell guns to either organization gejohnston Jul 2012 #73

I know, he was just at aryan nation meeting researching business opportunities. Hoyt Jul 2012 #75

we never said he wasn't a racist gejohnston Jul 2012 #77

I've got an assignment for you Hoyt permatex Jul 2012 #78

Entrapping a racist gun trafficker at ayran nation meeting? LMAO. He was there, Hoyt Jul 2012 #80

I get it permatex Jul 2012 #81

The truth is clear, just like in Zimmerman's case. Hoyt Jul 2012 #82

Why do you always bring up Zimmerman? permatex Jul 2012 #83

Like you care about the truth. You care about guns - that's your truth. Hoyt Jul 2012 #84

I again rest my case permatex Jul 2012 #85

Have you noticed sarisataka Jul 2012 #86

Yeah permatex Jul 2012 #87

+1. Once again, I need to repost this from a few years back: friendly_iconoclast Jul 2012 #89

He hung out with dodgy people, some of them criminals. Like you yourself used to be: friendly_iconoclast Jul 2012 #79

Everytime Hoyt posts here permatex Jul 2012 #76

I'm denouncing deliberate inaccuracy and McCarthyism. It's just as unacceptable when done by 'us'... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2012 #74

Yep: Godwinned in one! Lizzie Poppet Jul 2012 #60

I haven't put him on ignore because permatex Jul 2012 #62

Good call. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2012 #66

Actually Meiko Jul 2012 #65

Some people really dislike when facts conflict with preconceived notions. sarisataka Jul 2012 #70

Funny thing about the groups you mentioned. Remmah2 Jul 2012 #88