Gun Control & RKBA

PavePusher

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40. Please explain why an 18" barrel on a shotgun should be legal, but not a 17" barrel.

Sun Jul 15, 2012, 09:46 PM

Jul 2012

Why should they not be legal?

"Silencers" are, of course, rather badly named. I know this has been explained to you before. They are a safety device to help protect hearing, but they do not at all "silence" the sound of a firearm being discharged. They reduce it considerably, often to the point that one only needs simple ear plugs, and not full double-hearing-protection, and so it doesn't bother the neighbors a mile or more away. They also greatly increase the over-all size of a firearm.

As far as explosives, if you have the space to store them safely, why not? Do you really think the current fucktardery of laws really keeps anyone with criminal intent from obtaining/manufacturing their own explosives? History and current events say... no. All we need is laws to delineate and criminalize malicious intent and make the owners responsible for all damages incurred for carelessness.

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Want to buy a silencer, sawed-off shotgun or explosives? Sheriff will no longer help [View all] Meiko Jul 2012 OP

In the "gunshine" state no less gejohnston Jul 2012 #1

He is fulfilling his responsibility to citizens by not helping gun nuts get more lethal "toys. " Hoyt Jul 2012 #2

They're not toys bongbong Jul 2012 #3

Do you have anything constructive to add permatex Jul 2012 #18

The gun grabbers bongbong Jul 2012 #38

So do you have anything constructive to add permatex Jul 2012 #39

No bongbong Jul 2012 #51

As I've stated before permatex Jul 2012 #52

You said it, not me bongbong Jul 2012 #62

Congrats sarisataka Jul 2012 #60

How does that qualify as his responsibility? NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #6

How does a silencer Meiko Jul 2012 #17

My god, how irresponsible of the sheriff. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #4

I think the sheriff did it because the French use silencers at their ranges gejohnston Jul 2012 #5

Ah mon dieu! Les francais sont terribles. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #11

Who's flooding the streets with anything? NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #7

Makes one wonder what they do with them when they take them out of the safe. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #12

been watching too many movies gejohnston Jul 2012 #14

Actually... NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #30

Your clear insinuation is that people have criminal intent. PavePusher Jul 2012 #54

"flooding the streets" 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #8

Shh! It's more important to kill each other quietly. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #13

I just wish they'd work on accuracy 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #15

More insinuation against non-criminals. PavePusher Jul 2012 #56

Your ignorance and manufactured deflections are quite stunning. PavePusher Jul 2012 #10

So you think sawed-off shotguns are legitimate weapons to own? Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #21

why aren't sawed off shotguns legitimate weapons to own? gejohnston Jul 2012 #25

I'm familiar with ways to make a silencer. But that isn't my point. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #32

because gejohnston Jul 2012 #35

Please explain why an 18" barrel on a shotgun should be legal, but not a 17" barrel. PavePusher Jul 2012 #40

P.S. Why should mufflers for firearms not be legal for over-the-counter sale... PavePusher Jul 2012 #41

Assuming one is not a convicted felon or otherwise prohibited by law? S_B_Jackson Jul 2012 #43

Oh my, want some cheese with that? Meiko Jul 2012 #20

I'm not supporting the sheriff. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #23

I don't think Meiko Jul 2012 #31

Correct. A lot of fire power. For what? Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #33

people collect stuff gejohnston Jul 2012 #36

I know. It's a strange world. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author Meiko Jul 2012 #42

These weapons are designed to deliver maximum Meiko Jul 2012 #45

I understand all that. And I'm sure they are fun to shoot. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #68

Mines? Meiko Jul 2012 #69

Double your fun sarisataka Jul 2012 #70

There are probably people who collect finger nail clippings too. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #71

You have a CORVETTE. For what?????????????? Tejas Jul 2012 #46

I don't have a corvette. You couldn't pay me enough to have one. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #74

"I think there is much we need to question about this world we live in. PavePusher Jul 2012 #58

Yeah, I'm not big on the "moral-police" or any kind of police. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #75

This is part of the sheriffs job....he has responsibilities to the citizens ileus Jul 2012 #9

What could possibly be more progressive than buying a silencer and a sawed-off shotgun? Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #19

Well, gejohnston Jul 2012 #22

We are not in France or Finland Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #24

The silencer, which should be called a muffler, is beneficial to your hearing when hunting. permatex Jul 2012 #26

Right, I've heard that before about the "muffler", noise suppressor, silencer Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #27

Calling it a silencer is just Hollywood crap permatex Jul 2012 #29

US federal law in addition to the inventor's own patent describes them as "silencers"... OneTenthofOnePercent Jul 2012 #48

I know that permatex Jul 2012 #49

Ear protection doesn't do anything to help reduce the disturbance to people near petronius Jul 2012 #34

what they are designed for gejohnston Jul 2012 #28

Noise pollution, right! Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #53

I don't understand your position on silencers permatex Jul 2012 #55

A few reasons, none of which are illegitimate: OneTenthofOnePercent Jul 2012 #50

Thanks for the explanation. I should probably get back on the boat now. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #57

"...which I don't buy for one minute." PavePusher Jul 2012 #59

They make shot groups more precise... they do not make "aiming" any easier. OneTenthofOnePercent Jul 2012 #65

Oh right. Shot groups. Like group shots, right? Try a tripod. There, fixed it. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #66

Conflation with criminal intent from you.... again? Whodathunkit. PavePusher Jul 2012 #72

No longer an excuse? For what? LOL Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #73

What is not progessive about class III ileus Jul 2012 #37

That whole signature requirement seems obsolete, and should be stricken petronius Jul 2012 #16

I can't wait. Callisto32 Jul 2012 #44

It's none of his business anyway. Tejas Jul 2012 #47

Not that I agree with the Sheriff's decision but.. HALO141 Jul 2012 #61

Agree Full auto = $$$ to feed, but an SBR or muffler ileus Jul 2012 #63

Indeed! HALO141 Jul 2012 #64