Gun Control & RKBA

X_Digger

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62. They met the letter of the law. A boneheaded law.

Sat Dec 31, 2011, 12:12 AM

Dec 2011

Imagine if a law was passed that said red cars were banned.

Would you seriously expect car makers to not just change colors?

If these weapons were so dangerous because of a few features, why not remove them and be good? Now do you see the inanity of the law? It was a publicity stunt, easily avoided, but a perfect first step to more draconian measures. Get people used to the idea of bans based on 'eww scawwy bwack wifles, waaah' -- and move up from there. Which brings me to..

There is no 'stricter better definition' -- what, ban semi-automatics? Fuck that. We're not going back to 1885 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Ritter_von_Mannlicher). Ban detachable magazines? We're not going back to 1779 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girandoni_Air_Rifle).

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NRA Raises $200 Million as Gun Lobby Toasters Burn Logo on Bread [View all] ellisonz Dec 2011 OP

I don't think Obama would veto anything that had anti-gun language in it... krispos42 Dec 2011 #1

None of those issues would safeinOhio Dec 2011 #2

In your viewpoint... krispos42 Dec 2011 #5

True in my viewpoint. safeinOhio Dec 2011 #7

What other Constitutional Rights are "states rights" issues? PavePusher Dec 2011 #13

I , and most others, safeinOhio Dec 2011 #16

SCOTUS has declared that "keep" is a fundamental Right. PavePusher Dec 2011 #19

"would seem to indicate" safeinOhio Dec 2011 #26

You are arguing something I haven't even asserted. PavePusher Dec 2011 #27

Every day is a good day, here. safeinOhio Dec 2011 #43

Fundamental does not mean absolute. PavePusher Dec 2011 #46

Where do you get from the decision that 'keep' is unregulated? X_Digger Dec 2011 #44

The examples you have given here pipoman Dec 2011 #74

The AWB was NOT a ban. It was a merely "feel good" law... spin Dec 2011 #18

IMHO I think the gun mania of this country... ellisonz Dec 2011 #52

No, it made manufacturers change features or model names.. X_Digger Dec 2011 #55

What do you think that says about the integrity of the gun manufacturers? ellisonz Dec 2011 #57

I guess it says the gun manufacturers are burf Dec 2011 #58

They met the letter of the law. A boneheaded law. X_Digger Dec 2011 #62

You have very low expectations for corporate responsibility. n/t ellisonz Dec 2011 #63

Well isn't that special.. X_Digger Dec 2011 #68

A company should respect the intention of the Federal government... ellisonz Dec 2011 #72

I'm endorsing following the law as written X_Digger Dec 2011 #76

If the intent was to have companies stop manufacturing semi-auto firearms.... PavePusher Jan 2012 #103

Read further down the article you linked to... spin Dec 2011 #61

Thats because the arms manufacturers are snakes... ellisonz Dec 2011 #65

Virtually every law and restriction pipoman Dec 2011 #75

No it doesn't irk me in the least... spin Dec 2011 #84

And this is a good thing? ellisonz Dec 2011 #87

"damn things wouldn't be in production" -- did you forget? Production never stopped. X_Digger Dec 2011 #88

You certainly are upset with people for complying with the law. PavePusher Dec 2011 #90

The AWB was concieved and passed during a moral panic. friendly_iconoclast Dec 2011 #93

The War on Terror has contributed far more to a militarized police force... spin Dec 2011 #91

Still insist on following Josh Sugarmann's failed line? friendly_iconoclast Dec 2011 #92

Italian proverb: Simo 1939_1940 Jan 2012 #105

I think Bloomberg is jealous and a whiney fuck of an Authoritarian. PavePusher Dec 2011 #3

All bets are off. safeinOhio Dec 2011 #8

Did I say I thought anyone would try to take away guns? PavePusher Dec 2011 #12

You are the one that said safeinOhio Dec 2011 #17

I don't believe in conspiracies rl6214 Dec 2011 #4

Their power could be curtailed in the blink of an eye slackmaster Dec 2011 #6

Precisely. It's the only issue I can think of where the party is horrifically out of step with Fair Witness Dec 2011 #9

You are welcome to your own opinion but not your own facts safeinOhio Dec 2011 #29

That is a horse-shit poll and I think you know why. Fair Witness Dec 2011 #33

Like I said, safeinOhio Dec 2011 #36

This one (from your own link) shows a drastic DECLINE in support of more 'control' Fair Witness Dec 2011 #39

Yup , safeinOhio Dec 2011 #41

the question I always had about this poll is gejohnston Dec 2011 #50

Polls of gun owners show that a majority of them safeinOhio Dec 2011 #73

most of us expressed the same here gejohnston Dec 2011 #77

"Confusion to the enemy!...." SteveW Dec 2011 #79

What I REALLY want to know is Glassunion Dec 2011 #10

Would you settle for Eric Estrada? slackmaster Dec 2011 #11

As a Democrat and NRA member I hate the over-the-top language from LaPierre and most of the NRA. aikoaiko Dec 2011 #14

If Obama comes out for rrneck Dec 2011 #15

I partially agree... ToolMaker Dec 2011 #21

Who said he was against... ellisonz Dec 2011 #53

Who said he was against... rrneck Dec 2011 #54

Well much of the rhetoric here that is so popular out there... ellisonz Dec 2011 #59

and a third can't name any... rrneck Dec 2011 #64

Definitely not political cartoons... ellisonz Dec 2011 #67

It's about as good as it's going to get right now. nt rrneck Dec 2011 #69

how is this remotely relevant? gejohnston Dec 2011 #70

How is it not relevant? n/t ellisonz Dec 2011 #71

I fail to see how gejohnston Dec 2011 #78

"Perhaps it was more of a written by the dim for the clueless." ellisonz Dec 2011 #83

Please, enlighten us of the loopholes of which you speak. n/t oneshooter Dec 2011 #85

It's not hard to write such legislation... ellisonz Dec 2011 #86

Keep those NRA royalties rollin' in! nt SteveW Dec 2011 #80

$650 for a toaster???? WTF Remmah2 Dec 2011 #20

An "assault" or "tactical" toaster would go for $1500 and sell in the millions. Hoyt Dec 2011 #22

No, because that would be stupid. Callisto32 Dec 2011 #24

Grenade launcher, assault toast thrower, it's all the same to him. PavePusher Dec 2011 #28

Just like the guns that folks seem to covet for some irrational reason. Hoyt Dec 2011 #30

More like the firearms you have a irrational fear of, for no reason. n/t oneshooter Dec 2011 #45

We've given you plenty of rational reasons. PavePusher Dec 2011 #47

Maybe not, burf Dec 2011 #60

compared to Brady and VPC gejohnston Dec 2011 #23

Hope that never happens. Guns in public is a regressive cause, no matter how many votes it attracts. Hoyt Dec 2011 #31

hope what never happens? gejohnston Dec 2011 #35

Gun-control must be a "conservative cause." It's worked so well for the Right! nt SteveW Dec 2011 #81

This message was self-deleted by its author Simo 1939_1940 Dec 2011 #94

I think you'd like seeing the bumper of my car. Simo 1939_1940 Dec 2011 #95

Where I'm from, you usually see confederate flag, "insured by S&W," W, and NRA sticker on vehicles. Hoyt Dec 2011 #98

Glad I'm not from Georgia gejohnston Dec 2011 #99

Dick Cheney country? Hoyt Jan 2012 #101

Somehow, I doubt the entire state is represented by a single man. PavePusher Jan 2012 #102

it is also gejohnston Jan 2012 #104

We sure are lucky the Colonists didn't have any guns, otherwise we might have our own country Fair Witness Dec 2011 #37

"Guns in public is a regressive cause..........." Simo 1939_1940 Dec 2011 #97

The NRA is a bunch of right wing idiots. Who will lie to raise money. Hate them. Logical Dec 2011 #25

I recently joined, not because I think LaPierre is a good guy, but because I'm interested in protect Fair Witness Dec 2011 #34

I think you are supporting a right wing group. Like if you joined pro-life group or Logical Dec 2011 #38

Yes, it is my decision. Fair Witness Dec 2011 #40

?? What does this have to do with the NRA...... Logical Dec 2011 #42

Sooooo, let's turn into a more centrist group. By joining. PavePusher Dec 2011 #48

I don't think it would work. The NRA would lose too many members if they started.... Logical Dec 2011 #49

maybe gejohnston Dec 2011 #51

Correct. The NRA is not about inclusiveness. ellisonz Dec 2011 #56

Only 1/2 royalty payment for this one... SteveW Dec 2011 #82

Stereotyping. Broad-brushing. Pigeon-holing. PavePusher Dec 2011 #89

Notice that the latest scary buzz terminology Simo 1939_1940 Dec 2011 #96

I think how the NRA spends its money speaks for itself. n/t ellisonz Jan 2012 #100

I think LaPierre is fearmongering to raise revenue. AtheistCrusader Dec 2011 #32

I would bet... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2011 #66