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virginia mountainman

(5,046 posts)
5. My thoughts
Mon Jul 23, 2012, 12:27 AM
Jul 2012
Controlling availability - this would be laws intended to keep guns out of the hands of those who shouldn't have them, including strategies like registration, background checks, and so on, as well as laws like restrictive CCW intended to keep guns out of public space,


No problem with background checks, registration is a non-starter. I don't like the idea of a government list to "who owns what". America is very different today than it was when I was young, today, I saw a video of a "government agent" or a group of police, turning police dogs loose on babies in strollers...where do we go from here?!

As for CCW restrictions, whats the point?? Most of these mass shootings happen in "gun free zones" all that does is insure that the law abiding are unarmed, and time has proven that the law abiding are not the ones you must worry about. The theater in Colorado was a "gun free zone" it absoluty did not stop the killer.

Controlling lethality - things like 'assault weapons' bans that are intended to reduce the lethality/effectiveness of privately owned guns, and


Semi automatic rifles are here to stay, and have been for well over 100 years. They happen to be the best selling rifles in America. Attempts to ban them only make them more desirable. And lethal?? The 12 gauge shotgun, is one of the most lethal, and powerful weapons a civilian can own. At close range a 12 gauge loaded with buckshot is a FEARSOME WEAPON, and WILL remove limbs from the targeted person. Once all is said and done, I expect to learn that the most deadly weapon he used in the theater that night was the shotgun. The AR15 is just a little more than a glorified .22 in power, and it is not lethal unless you hit an organ, or a main artery. I know this because, I was raised a hunter, and understand "what gun, would be used for what purpose" actually Guns, like the AR15 in its standard caliber of 5.56 or .223, are BANNED in many states for hunting, not due to magazine capacity, but because they are too weak to reliably make a clean, merciful kill. Guns of that type tend to wound, not kill. And sadly that is by design, and the rifles military heritage if you wound an enemy soldier on the battlefield, it takes 2 more out of action to care for him...If you kill him, he does not take anyone else out of the battle, since he no longer needs care.


Education - mandatory training like California's Handgun Safety Certificate, safety presentations in school, etc.


I am 100% with you on that one.
I think one will need a combination of all three. Kaleva Jul 2012 #1
Education and proper enforcement of current laws. do away with the war on drugs. Enact a National Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #2
Put the arts music and phys ed back in the schools rrneck Jul 2012 #4
What sort of phys ed do you have in mind? radicalliberal Jan 2013 #9
I love the way you ask a question. rrneck Jan 2013 #12
Branching guns into the gun forum are we? sarisataka Jul 2012 #3
Gun manufactures who make semi-automatics produce a defective product. They should be sued. ehrenfeucht games Jan 2013 #15
If they make a defective product sarisataka Jan 2013 #20
So, if a car's engine had the power to go 400mph, with a leadfoot on the gas pedal, ... ehrenfeucht games Jan 2013 #31
As long as it is consistent sarisataka Jan 2013 #32
I own a Honda superbike that will do 180mph+ without breaking a sweat. Ashgrey77 Jan 2013 #33
Hence the word 'donorcycle'.... friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #37
Absolutely Abq_Sarah Jan 2013 #38
My thoughts virginia mountainman Jul 2012 #5
Can you share a link to the police dogs vs babies? Thanks. n/t TPaine7 Jul 2012 #6
It is unreal... virginia mountainman Jul 2012 #7
That's really scary looking - seems like the dog escaped and went a bit nuts petronius Jul 2012 #8
glorified 22? jimmy the one Jan 2013 #18
At least part of what you say has a scientific basis. What is your source for saying that AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2013 #26
Would you by chance have a cite for... Marengo Jan 2013 #36
1)Tax break/refund for gun safes 2)Free Body Armor for everyone 3)teach guns in schools OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #10
So everybody is supposed to subsidize your hobby? I'd like a taxbreak/refund for new sails flamin lib Jan 2013 #16
Clearly you're not intersted in helping to keep guns more secure and people safer. OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #19
I thought you were kidding in post #10. Really, I did. flamin lib Jan 2013 #21
Hey, I'm just following suit... OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #22
Whew! My confidence in rationality is somewhat renewed. I did get a laugh tho . . .nt flamin lib Jan 2013 #23
All three. ehrenfeucht games Jan 2013 #11
Have you started doing that yet? oneshooter Jan 2013 #13
nice post, Lee Mercer, Jr Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2013 #14
And prove Wayne LaPierre right by seeking to do so Pullo Jan 2013 #17
You're right. Wayne LaPierre, before the AWB, was a low-level functionary in the Democratic Party. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2013 #27
It's a-comin.' See my post below. Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #35
My response iiibbb Jan 2013 #24
Graduated Licensees One_Life_To_Give Jan 2013 #25
"the education route has the least risk of controversy"? Just wait until someone points out that AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2013 #28
m1 carbine jimmy the one Jan 2013 #29
Thanks. The Wiki links certainly seem to confirm that certain WW II stories (but not Korean War or AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2013 #30
There is a problem with the education approach... Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #34
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