Gun Control & RKBA

permatex

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27. I've already expressed my deepest condolences for the victim and families

Mon Jul 23, 2012, 01:12 PM

Jul 2012

so take your little accusation and place it where the sun don't shine.
The vast majority of angry comments, insults, snark, outright lies are from your side, for the most part the pro 2A side has been pretty tolerant and patient. Here's a pm from a out of control DU'er that you defended and then tried to turn it around.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/117252888#post22

It was you side that immediately started attacking us, comments like, all gun owners have blood on their hands, all gun owners are compensating for small penises, gun nuts, gun lovers, gun hoarders, the NRA is a terrorist org., guns should be banned and confiscated, etc, etc.
So don't set behind your keyboard and pretend that we are the ones that are being rude, insulting, unreasonable.

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I have noticed something odd this weekend [View all] Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 OP

I think in the aftermath of any gun related crisis it is perfectly natural to try to ensure there's mother earth Jul 2012 #1

Beta-C mags are prone to jamming. AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #44

I inserted doing the usual background checks as missing in this recent incident. nt mother earth Jul 2012 #59

His weapons were purchased from a store called Gander Mountain. Similar to Cabelas or Sportsmen's Wa AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #62

Surprisingly you are correct, it was first reported they were NOT done. mother earth Jul 2012 #172

Hello and welcome... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #80

"no background checks were done in his massive ammunition purchases online." rl6214 Jul 2012 #92

it was in regard to "limits on ammunition purchased" and I do believe it was reported there were no mother earth Jul 2012 #171

there have never been background checks on ammo. gejohnston Jul 2012 #174

No - Not Waiting For A Crisis - We're A Reactive Society - Not A Proactive Society...... global1 Jul 2012 #2

They know after all these fail, their ultimate goal can be passed. ileus Jul 2012 #3

Exactly sarisataka Jul 2012 #6

"Follow me guys, there is no slippery slope!" yelled the lead lemming as he headed over the cliff. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #72

Now you are seeing VPC gejohnston Jul 2012 #74

I must confess that I know very little about either. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #102

agreed, I dumped the NRA gejohnston Jul 2012 #107

That is one bad habit I never picked up sarisataka Jul 2012 #89

So true! Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #105

Almost. Callisto32 Jul 2012 #148

That's the truth. Clames Jul 2012 #4

As Rahm Emanuel said permatex Jul 2012 #5

People who want sensible gun limits are bullied into keeping quite but when a tragedy such as upaloopa Jul 2012 #7

What restrictions that used to be in place would have prevented this had they remained in place? Kaleva Jul 2012 #8

perhaps there should be sane restrictions on all of these samsingh Jul 2012 #10

Eventual banning of firearms in the future permatex Jul 2012 #14

this topic needs a lot of give and take for the good of all samsingh Jul 2012 #23

I've already expressed my deepest condolences for the victim and families permatex Jul 2012 #27

Seriously, Permatex, I hope you don't carry your new guns until you calm down. Hoyt Jul 2012 #76

Seriously Hoyt permatex Jul 2012 #77

Typical snark rl6214 Jul 2012 #96

He's a Tough Guy bongbong Jul 2012 #117

Give it a rest dude. permatex Jul 2012 #118

Sorry bongbong Jul 2012 #122

impressive gejohnston Jul 2012 #125

Tiddly bongbong Jul 2012 #128

I hear your mother calling you gejohnston Jul 2012 #129

Your mistake bongbong Jul 2012 #131

bless your heart. gejohnston Jul 2012 #132

Another mistake by you bongbong Jul 2012 #147

I think he said exactly what he wanted to say. Non-Southerners generally won't get it, however... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2012 #155

shit, I'm turning into a southerner gejohnston Jul 2012 #157

I gather our interlocutor is not a Southerner, bless his heart... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2012 #159

Make sure bongbong Jul 2012 #162

it's divine spirit doesn't need blessing. gejohnston Jul 2012 #163

Fun! bongbong Jul 2012 #164

such a genius gejohnston Jul 2012 #165

Wouldn't know bongbong Jul 2012 #166

how would she know? gejohnston Jul 2012 #168

Yawn bongbong Jul 2012 #161

and by people like you. you seem really good at the personal attacks. alabama_for_obama Jul 2012 #169

You mean like this? bongbong Jul 2012 #173

by the way, alabama_for_obama Jul 2012 #170

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #46

the definition of infringe is clear samsingh Jul 2012 #49

? could you expand on that ? Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #127

Where is this evidence? Clames Jul 2012 #58

really. read the evidence at the link to cnn samsingh Jul 2012 #60

So you accept opinions as facts. Clames Jul 2012 #78

that is complete evidence. what part of it is opinion to you? samsingh Jul 2012 #83

It says opinion right in the link permatex Jul 2012 #90

the facts are imbedded in an article where the author talks about his feelings samsingh Jul 2012 #111

It's not facts its opinion permatex Jul 2012 #114

Those aren't facts. Clames Jul 2012 #119

He he he krispos42 Jul 2012 #121

this is no laughing matter samsingh Jul 2012 #123

The idea that any of those measures, even IF you could pass them here, HALO141 Jul 2012 #91

that is very selective reading and the reason many people are getting frustrated with pro-gun samsingh Jul 2012 #110

how often did Australia have mass gejohnston Jul 2012 #115

Another fact for you krispos42 Jul 2012 #130

And he doubles down on the snark..."paranoia from gun owners" rl6214 Jul 2012 #95

It's a shame. HALO141 Jul 2012 #101

if 'they're out to take all my guns away from me' isn't paranoia - i don't know what is. samsingh Jul 2012 #124

Every group is going to have the fringe so there are some gun owners rl6214 Jul 2012 #136

i have problems with either extreme. samsingh Jul 2012 #138

I fully agree with you there. rl6214 Jul 2012 #145

3/4 of states, not 2/3 are need for ratification. N/T GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #144

Thanks for the clarification. permatex Jul 2012 #146

How do you define "High Capacity"? Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #25

You can still get 20 rd mags for the AR/M16, I bought a number of them last year. rl6214 Jul 2012 #97

"who needs high capacity magazines for self defense?" PavePusher Jul 2012 #42

i did say 'some' not 'all' samsingh Jul 2012 #50

The use of the hi capacity magazine may be what stopped more from being killed rl6214 Jul 2012 #94

why should a tiny minority of rich people bully us? gejohnston Jul 2012 #12

I was responding to the OP. I am not cranking up the volume or describing posts as theater you are upaloopa Jul 2012 #21

a few corrections gejohnston Jul 2012 #29

Unlike you I don't have a list of things memorized that I can put in a post. upaloopa Jul 2012 #45

don't have anything memorized gejohnston Jul 2012 #53

"Like I said I do not have a ready source of talking points such as those put out by the NRA" rl6214 Jul 2012 #99

Middle ground? permatex Jul 2012 #31

Just once, I'd like to see the author do some research, and come up with something AtheistCrusader Jul 2012 #47

"You refuse to even come to some middle ground. " HALO141 Jul 2012 #98

What "sensible gun limits"? PavePusher Jul 2012 #30

They've kept quiet? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #55

+1. Always good to see another voice of reason participating in the gungeon. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #160

homes was not accepted by a gun club samsingh Jul 2012 #9

A background check would have turned up nothing on him Kaleva Jul 2012 #11

the suspicion from the gun club should have alerted a visit samsingh Jul 2012 #13

by who, the local cops? gejohnston Jul 2012 #16

given the amount of damage a sick individual can do with the weapons at his disposal, someone should samsingh Jul 2012 #22

That is a police procedure and a prior restraint issue gejohnston Jul 2012 #32

if someone was buying tons of fertilizer, i think that may prompt a visit from the police samsingh Jul 2012 #37

You can buy tons of fertilizer without permatex Jul 2012 #40

Hard to say if the police would have done anything. Kaleva Jul 2012 #20

Because of an odd answering machine message? PavePusher Jul 2012 #34

wrong gejohnston Jul 2012 #15

Jeeeeeeez permatex Jul 2012 #18

I bought three bolt action Mosin-Nagant rifles on line on 3 seperate occasions Kaleva Jul 2012 #19

i guess the news is wrong then. i guess these 'acts' are not very effective and should be changed. samsingh Jul 2012 #38

"changed" how? PavePusher Jul 2012 #43

Another lie permatex Jul 2012 #17

Would you consider that more of a personal defense weapon or a hunting rifle? NT rbixby Jul 2012 #24

Substitute the 30 round mag for a 5 rounder and you have a deer gun right there NT. Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #33

Neither permatex Jul 2012 #35

Could be either one. PavePusher Jul 2012 #36

Ah the joy of both. Callisto32 Jul 2012 #149

i gotta get one of these man samsingh Jul 2012 #39

Knock yourself out permatex Jul 2012 #41

I wouldn't even waste a .22 on a rabbits. A Crossman will keep you in all the rabbit you can eat NT Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #79

Your right permatex Jul 2012 #82

No such thing as a waste of .22. Callisto32 Jul 2012 #150

Oh, I see. PavePusher Jul 2012 #48

Funny that permatex Jul 2012 #52

he purchased all his guns online with NO background checks Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #28

So you'd let self-policing gun-clubs determine who may and who may not carry? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #56

"he purchased all his guns online with NO background checks" rl6214 Jul 2012 #103

While he indeed rejected, the rest of your post is factually untrue ProgressiveProfessor Jul 2012 #120

The people who lost family and friends in Aurora "noticed something odd this weekend" as well villager Jul 2012 #26

Others waving around their dead friend and family in order to push an agenda? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #57

Others callously ignoring the human costs to push theirs? villager Jul 2012 #139

Who is doing that? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #140

You were replying to my post -- where mentions of machine guns were entirely absent. villager Jul 2012 #141

You replied to my post with 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #142

again, the *initial reply* in this sub-thread was yours villager Jul 2012 #143

Unless you know the posters well in person, it is difficult to ascertain the intended effect of patrice Jul 2012 #51

If a given poster states " Fuck you! I want to ban all your fucking guns" Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #81

You'll also get "but think of the victims!" 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #54

i don't think that thinking about victims is insane at all. samsingh Jul 2012 #61

Case in point 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #63

ok - to your point samsingh Jul 2012 #64

Respond to the scenario I made up 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #65

i thought i did. samsingh Jul 2012 #67

You did not, you altered it 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #69

okay samsingh Jul 2012 #73

Please respond to my scenario 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #75

that would be irrational samsingh Jul 2012 #84

Whoa whoa whao slow down there rambo 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #87

drinking while operating a firearm is illegal also BTW. Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #85

you missed the point gejohnston Jul 2012 #66

okay then, let's substitute tractor tailer in my explanation. samsingh Jul 2012 #68

he wasn't walking around gejohnston Jul 2012 #71

"I have noticed something odd this weekend" Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #70

re: "...feelings..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #86

I'm appointing you my Undersecretary. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #93

Thanks, buddy! discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #104

I already got Innuendo covered. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #106

Perhaps... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #109

Let's claim it as a National Security priority and add it to the Pentagon budget. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #112

Perchance... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #116

No, but I've enjoyed following the real blood sport of Wall Street. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #126

It is a bit of a blood sport discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #134

Want to see a good one? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #135

Stories... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #137

Then we had all the people who bought the same thing to feel powerful deny that's why they bought it Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #88

I did the same. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #100

Pardon? tortoise1956 Jul 2012 #176

Besides, the only thing I would buy to feel powerful would be Viagra... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #177

Can't - could cost me my job tortoise1956 Jul 2012 #178

Some people have a need to be talked down.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #179

It's my need to feel powerful... tortoise1956 Jul 2012 #181

Do everyone a favor. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #182

BTW: Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #180

banning the sale of ammunition would have prevented this and it would be realtivily easy to do. bowens43 Jul 2012 #108

Rrriiiiight. HALO141 Jul 2012 #113

That would have worked but it's a political impossibility Kaleva Jul 2012 #133

Nobody has EVER homebrewed ammo. Callisto32 Jul 2012 #151

I know that I was at home saying "PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE ... let a manic kill a bunch of people!!!" JoePhilly Jul 2012 #152

I have to laugh when someone who needs to have access to unregulated guns, Walk away Jul 2012 #153

You can't own automatic weapons w/ out STRICT government scrutiny Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #154

It would seem sane to me if local law enforcement had access to a data base... Walk away Jul 2012 #185

Yes it would Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #190

there are no unregulated guns gejohnston Jul 2012 #156

Gee! Was the Aurora shooters gun regulated? If it was then.... Walk away Jul 2012 #183

Don't have an NRA dictionary, but check with the gun grabbers DonP Jul 2012 #186

Everything you just posted seems to prove that with the current restrictions... Walk away Jul 2012 #188

Neither do UK or Jamaicia gejohnston Jul 2012 #189

obviously you don't know anything about current federal gun control laws gejohnston Jul 2012 #187

...posted by someone implying the NRA has paid agents all over the Net. "Paranoia", indeed... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2012 #158

The usual American approach to any undesirable event is to push for some new laws. Brisket Jul 2012 #167

Well said and welcome to DU NT Trunk Monkey Jul 2012 #175

Turn right and head directly to the Gungeon! Walk away Jul 2012 #184

�No one want wants to ban your gun� (in the midst of several calls to ban my gun) xxenderwigginxx Jul 2012 #191

I came to a completely different conclusion, discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #192