Gun Control & RKBA

ObamaFTW2012

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26. To a point, I agree

Sun Jan 1, 2012, 08:47 PM

Jan 2012

there are plenty of old folks who lose their awareness and motor skills, and some who suffer dementia (a horrible thing to see happen), and for those individuals it is the right thing for the family to take their guns away. But there are many who do not lose awareness, nor lack the motor skills needed for basic marksmanship, nor suffer from dementia, and therefore they deserve to exercise their right as much as any other citizen.

My reason? It's simple, really. I am a husband and a father. I have an obligation to protect and defend my family to the best of my ability. I also have an obligation to provide for them, and thus an obligation to make sure I am around for as long as possible to do so. I carry a firearm (amongst other tools) to give myself the best odds in dealing with any possible threats that may find me and my family.

Hopefully, I will die an old man who carried a gun every day but never needed it.

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The context for self-defense [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2011 OP

Mahatma Gandhi had this to say about self defense and defense of family... spin Dec 2011 #1

I have read this. discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2011 #3

But, you spin because he speaketh not about guns. Hoyt Jan 2012 #14

Ah, but Gandhi did speak about firearms... spin Jan 2012 #31

He did not speak of firearms in public -- The comments you improperly cite were about MILITARY arms Hoyt Jan 2012 #35

No - it covered all arms including guns, swords, bow and arrows hack89 Jan 2012 #41

Not anything in there from Gandhi, but nice try. Hoyt Jan 2012 #42

It was the law that Gandhi was condemning. nt hack89 Jan 2012 #43

But, not because he or any individual was "deprived" of guns. He was talking about British depriving Hoyt Jan 2012 #44

Read the damn law - the text is right there. You are wrong. nt hack89 Jan 2012 #45

I suggest you read what Gandhi was referring to when he made that comment. Hoyt Jan 2012 #47

Here let me help you a little. Hoyt Jan 2012 #48

The Arms Act specifically talks about civilian gun restrictions hack89 Jan 2012 #54

But, that is NOT WHAT Gandhi was talking about. Do some real research rather than relying on Hoyt Jan 2012 #59

So why is he talking about the Arms Act?nt hack89 Jan 2012 #60

There are none so blind... ;) n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #49

I can't tell if that's sarcasm or something else... Pacafishmate Jan 2012 #46

You are attempting to shift the debate to one involving carrying firearms in public... spin Jan 2012 #50

Here's another quote by Gandhi... SteveW Jan 2012 #51

Assuming they need dispatching. In any event, glad to have you protecting society with your guns. Hoyt Jan 2012 #52

"Playing Jesus?" A. L. Webber hired better actors for that. SteveW Jan 2012 #57

I was hoping you'd start the New Year off with some rationality on this. Hoyt Dec 2011 #2

I wasn't planning... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2011 #4

He did. That's the part you can't stand. n/t DissedByBush Jan 2012 #6

Bravo! discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #7

Sure, the only "rational" ones are the 4% of population who can't venture out without a gun or two. Hoyt Jan 2012 #10

The rational folks... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #23

That view of "freedom" reminds me of right wingers "bombing Iraqis for peace." Hoyt Jan 2012 #37

When might you... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #39

"Start the New Year off with logic and common sense. " rl6214 Jan 2012 #9

No No No...having the means to defend yourself and loved ones is mean, hateful, and impolite. ileus Jan 2012 #5

You should learn better ways of "defending" yourself, if you really honestly think you need it. Hoyt Jan 2012 #11

That post should really have had a drink warning. ManiacJoe Jan 2012 #12

Such as, Hoyt? BiggJawn Jan 2012 #13

why limit yourself with an inferior response? ileus Jan 2012 #15

I don't think the 96% of people who walk outside without a gun see it as "inferior" response. Hoyt Jan 2012 #18

If you would, please... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #19

Just not good for society. I know you don't care, but it's a fact. Hoyt Jan 2012 #20

I am aware... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #22

No "fact" there unless you can somehow prove to us it is indeed a "fact" rl6214 Jan 2012 #33

I just don't think guys like this are what we need more of. . . . . . Hoyt Jan 2012 #40

Thank you for clarifying. ManiacJoe Jan 2012 #55

Ah, that old trick again -- they aren't a member of "gun culture" once they get caught in crime. Hoyt Jan 2012 #58

Sorry... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #61

You were probably "grandfathered in" or provided life-time membership upon first caressing a gun. Hoyt Jan 2012 #62

ALRIGHT! discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #63

I believe that it is the "Deny facts and lie about it" club. oneshooter Jan 2012 #64

Yay! discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #65

"caressing a gun" rl6214 Jan 2012 #68

What's not good for society one-eyed fat man Jan 2012 #69

That tells us that if the 4% go thru all that trouble to be able to carry rl6214 Jan 2012 #32

No, it indicates a small percentage of population is desperate to have a gun with them always. Hoyt Jan 2012 #66

"desperate"? rl6214 Jan 2012 #67

Okay... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #34

"That ought to tell you something about how rational public toting is." Simo 1939_1940 Jan 2012 #56

Me, not as much, but ObamaFTW2012 Jan 2012 #16

Maybe not your mom, but a lot of folks that age have no business carrying a gun. Hoyt Jan 2012 #21

To a point, I agree ObamaFTW2012 Jan 2012 #26

Hopefully the "indirect" effects of gun proliferation will not screw others. Unfortunately it will. Hoyt Jan 2012 #27

..."indirect" effects of gun proliferation... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #28

More guns are like more chemical pollution. Gun proliferation = more guns available to wrong folks. Hoyt Jan 2012 #36

In answer - discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #38

You ignored... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #70

No matter how many times.... We_Have_A_Problem Jan 2012 #71

Please elaborate. NT ObamaFTW2012 Jan 2012 #29

Glad that I'm lactose intolerant rather than factose intolerant. Simo 1939_1940 Jan 2012 #30

Tooting ruders toting. nt SteveW Jan 2012 #53

Well said, Happy New Year. rl6214 Jan 2012 #8

Thank you and surely the same to you and yours. :) discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #17

One never sees the claim that arsonists are emboldened by matches or lighters, friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #24

+1 :) n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #25