Gun Control & RKBA

Tejas

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31. See post 28.

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Tue Jul 24, 2012, 07:37 PM

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I have a very simple gun-control question. [View all] DetlefK Jul 2012 OP

I don't believe they are. Not Me Jul 2012 #1

Was the same thing okay with DUI's? Not a constitutional right but think about it. brewens Jul 2012 #2

There ought to be a law. jeepnstein Jul 2012 #3

Your premise is falacious. HALO141 Jul 2012 #4

your spelling is atrocious, and your logic is worse. lastlib Jul 2012 #23

Oh no! An insult! Dear me, I guess I'll just have to kill myself. HALO141 Jul 2012 #70

"I really couldn't care less about your body one way or the other." tblue Jul 2012 #78

Yes. OneTenthofOnePercent Jul 2012 #5

Mass-murderers in China use knives. DetlefK Jul 2012 #6

Holmes probably could have done "better" with backpack loaded with Fertilizer and Deisel. OneTenthofOnePercent Jul 2012 #7

And you know why he probably wouldn't get caught. Because after Oklahama City the ATF wanted to put doc03 Jul 2012 #12

Hi there... I post from Akron. OneTenthofOnePercent Jul 2012 #17

Explosives vs Propellants Remmah2 Jul 2012 #54

SHHH! Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #77

'...the chances of the victims will rise from "none" to "maybe".' HALO141 Jul 2012 #8

That's the conundrum. DetlefK Jul 2012 #40

not at all gejohnston Jul 2012 #46

I'm probably gonna kill someone on my way home. You know, probably. DetlefK Jul 2012 #48

what are you gejohnston Jul 2012 #50

This was some kind of worst-case-scenario. DetlefK Jul 2012 #69

Parts of our society do gejohnston Jul 2012 #72

Oops, too late. HALO141 Jul 2012 #73

this a bit of a fallacy discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #49

You Forgot One AndyTiedye Jul 2012 #92

try again... alabama_for_obama Jul 2012 #25

There's an important difference... DetlefK Jul 2012 #39

False dichotomy mvccd1000 Jul 2012 #9

I don't think the question is fair since it assumes 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #10

Not record numbers at all. Trend is sharply down. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #11

do you have Canada's numbers for comparison? since the OP used that country, I would like to see Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #20

I'm sure the people in that theater in Aurora, CO are orgasmic over those numbers. lastlib Jul 2012 #29

no shit gejohnston Jul 2012 #34

Yep. I want the killing to stop. lastlib Jul 2012 #62

best way to take guns away from the gangs gejohnston Jul 2012 #64

You don't understand statistics do you? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #41

I seem to have a degree in mathematics--WTF does that have to do with anything? lastlib Jul 2012 #61

Claim 1: violent crime is down 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #63

I never tried to refute the trend. I simply maintain that the trend is irrelevant. lastlib Jul 2012 #65

"the trend is irrelevant." 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #66

melt 'em all down, crime will be even more rare, as in non-existent. lastlib Jul 2012 #84

And how do you propose to acheve this goal? oneshooter Jul 2012 #90

Because if there's one thing criminals hate 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #93

There was no crime prior to the invention of the firearm? Marengo Jul 2012 #94

there was no GUN crime before the invention of the firearm.... lastlib Jul 2012 #96

so people are less dead when gejohnston Jul 2012 #97

LOL! All eh? Marengo Jul 2012 #101

What is your Jenoch Aug 2012 #110

"PEOPLE ARE DYING." Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #80

well, then, kissmyass............ lastlib Jul 2012 #83

Uh oh. How ever will you recover from that one, Atypical? HALO141 Jul 2012 #86

*swoon* Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #88

I'd like to take your question seriously. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #13

Contract with society! Not with government! DetlefK Jul 2012 #42

Society??? discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #44

There are rules and there are rules. DetlefK Jul 2012 #45

the change discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #47

For example a vote to change the constitution. DetlefK Jul 2012 #68

Thanks for your reply. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #74

Well put. n/t HALO141 Jul 2012 #87

Thanks discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #91

If mass murders by firearm did NOT happen in Europe or Canada, you might have a point slackmaster Jul 2012 #14

Nothing like the frequency that makes us the laughing stock of the "civilized" world. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #18

you can help Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #21

That's why I'm here. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #22

sometimes I wonder. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #35

please post links to all the laughter, thanks. --- Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #27

I wasn't referring to the tragedy in Aurora Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #53

are you sure they are not? gejohnston Jul 2012 #56

I'm sure a couple of people might bring it up, but it's hardly a public debate. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #67

from what I understand gejohnston Jul 2012 #71

I didn't say the Czech Republic isn't civilized Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #81

Free speech suckered this nation into several wars and conflicts that didn't need to be fought. Kaleva Jul 2012 #15

Why not focus on measures that would truly stop such an event from reoccuring? Recovered Repug Jul 2012 #16

Depends on what makes you more uncomfortable. DetlefK Jul 2012 #43

No, absolutely not. I see nobody has answered YES, so far. Interesting. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #19

I know! Clames Jul 2012 #24

winnar! Tejas Jul 2012 #30

Pity that edit this post is no longer available to you. nt. Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #52

Gotta love all those guns they're packing and look at that dayglo body armor. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #55

I understand they were armor under the gejohnston Jul 2012 #59

Yes, they do. ManiacJoe Jul 2012 #82

They sure look happier now. Clames Jul 2012 #60

No HockeyMom Jul 2012 #26

See post 28. Tejas Jul 2012 #31

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... derby378 Jul 2012 #37

Are you saying the BoR sarisataka Jul 2012 #57

when you deny an individual you deny society. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #100

It is done with guns all the time for the good of society HockeyMom Jul 2012 #102

they gave up their right when they proved they could not act responsibly because it is Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #103

Felons? Mentally Ill by a Court Order? HockeyMom Jul 2012 #104

of course they are NOT innocent!!! are you confused? why are YOU denying innocent people Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #105

So says every despot ever to come into power. HALO141 Aug 2012 #111

2 sides to that coin, Pro-gun people get massacred too. Tejas Jul 2012 #28

They were child molesters... gregoire Jul 2012 #33

Child molesters in the same way the Aurora shooter was simply against the ACA? cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #36

Are you not old enough to remember Janet Reno... gregoire Jul 2012 #58

Pictures from Waco? Really DURHAM D Jul 2012 #38

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #85

absolutely not - ludicrous to think otherwise DrDan Jul 2012 #51

Yes. Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #75

How many dead children are worth your 'right' to unfettered gun ownership? tblue Jul 2012 #76

aside from the the latest tragedy, gejohnston Jul 2012 #79

Another false dichotomy n/t HALO141 Jul 2012 #89

what a coldhearted way to look at things. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #95

Should I rather ramble about "gun-stealing liberals" or "gun-fetishists"? DetlefK Jul 2012 #98

you should focus on People - Not Things. The person whose actions and MIShandling of the object Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #99

This is about people: We all face consequences for our behaviour. DetlefK Jul 2012 #106

the individual that wronged society should pay the debt and society should focus attention on those Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #107

But what if it's society that wronged individuals by furthering a dehumanizing world-view? DetlefK Jul 2012 #108

what if a frog had wings? --- Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #109

Those who would give up xxenderwigginxx Aug 2012 #112

Easily works both ways. DetlefK Aug 2012 #113

Yes Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #114