Gun Control & RKBA

gejohnston

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34. no shit

Tue Jul 24, 2012, 08:05 PM

Jul 2012

but more are killed everyday by gangs keeping the drug culture in dope. Are you taking them to task for inner city Chicago, Detroit, Mexico, Columbia? No, didn't think so.

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I have a very simple gun-control question. [View all] DetlefK Jul 2012 OP

I don't believe they are. Not Me Jul 2012 #1

Was the same thing okay with DUI's? Not a constitutional right but think about it. brewens Jul 2012 #2

There ought to be a law. jeepnstein Jul 2012 #3

Your premise is falacious. HALO141 Jul 2012 #4

your spelling is atrocious, and your logic is worse. lastlib Jul 2012 #23

Oh no! An insult! Dear me, I guess I'll just have to kill myself. HALO141 Jul 2012 #70

"I really couldn't care less about your body one way or the other." tblue Jul 2012 #78

Yes. OneTenthofOnePercent Jul 2012 #5

Mass-murderers in China use knives. DetlefK Jul 2012 #6

Holmes probably could have done "better" with backpack loaded with Fertilizer and Deisel. OneTenthofOnePercent Jul 2012 #7

And you know why he probably wouldn't get caught. Because after Oklahama City the ATF wanted to put doc03 Jul 2012 #12

Hi there... I post from Akron. OneTenthofOnePercent Jul 2012 #17

Explosives vs Propellants Remmah2 Jul 2012 #54

SHHH! Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #77

'...the chances of the victims will rise from "none" to "maybe".' HALO141 Jul 2012 #8

That's the conundrum. DetlefK Jul 2012 #40

not at all gejohnston Jul 2012 #46

I'm probably gonna kill someone on my way home. You know, probably. DetlefK Jul 2012 #48

what are you gejohnston Jul 2012 #50

This was some kind of worst-case-scenario. DetlefK Jul 2012 #69

Parts of our society do gejohnston Jul 2012 #72

Oops, too late. HALO141 Jul 2012 #73

this a bit of a fallacy discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #49

You Forgot One AndyTiedye Jul 2012 #92

try again... alabama_for_obama Jul 2012 #25

There's an important difference... DetlefK Jul 2012 #39

False dichotomy mvccd1000 Jul 2012 #9

I don't think the question is fair since it assumes 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #10

Not record numbers at all. Trend is sharply down. GreenStormCloud Jul 2012 #11

do you have Canada's numbers for comparison? since the OP used that country, I would like to see Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #20

I'm sure the people in that theater in Aurora, CO are orgasmic over those numbers. lastlib Jul 2012 #29

no shit gejohnston Jul 2012 #34

Yep. I want the killing to stop. lastlib Jul 2012 #62

best way to take guns away from the gangs gejohnston Jul 2012 #64

You don't understand statistics do you? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #41

I seem to have a degree in mathematics--WTF does that have to do with anything? lastlib Jul 2012 #61

Claim 1: violent crime is down 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #63

I never tried to refute the trend. I simply maintain that the trend is irrelevant. lastlib Jul 2012 #65

"the trend is irrelevant." 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #66

melt 'em all down, crime will be even more rare, as in non-existent. lastlib Jul 2012 #84

And how do you propose to acheve this goal? oneshooter Jul 2012 #90

Because if there's one thing criminals hate 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #93

There was no crime prior to the invention of the firearm? Marengo Jul 2012 #94

there was no GUN crime before the invention of the firearm.... lastlib Jul 2012 #96

so people are less dead when gejohnston Jul 2012 #97

LOL! All eh? Marengo Jul 2012 #101

What is your Jenoch Aug 2012 #110

"PEOPLE ARE DYING." Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #80

well, then, kissmyass............ lastlib Jul 2012 #83

Uh oh. How ever will you recover from that one, Atypical? HALO141 Jul 2012 #86

*swoon* Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #88

I'd like to take your question seriously. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #13

Contract with society! Not with government! DetlefK Jul 2012 #42

Society??? discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #44

There are rules and there are rules. DetlefK Jul 2012 #45

the change discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #47

For example a vote to change the constitution. DetlefK Jul 2012 #68

Thanks for your reply. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #74

Well put. n/t HALO141 Jul 2012 #87

Thanks discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2012 #91

If mass murders by firearm did NOT happen in Europe or Canada, you might have a point slackmaster Jul 2012 #14

Nothing like the frequency that makes us the laughing stock of the "civilized" world. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #18

you can help Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #21

That's why I'm here. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #22

sometimes I wonder. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #35

please post links to all the laughter, thanks. --- Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #27

I wasn't referring to the tragedy in Aurora Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #53

are you sure they are not? gejohnston Jul 2012 #56

I'm sure a couple of people might bring it up, but it's hardly a public debate. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #67

from what I understand gejohnston Jul 2012 #71

I didn't say the Czech Republic isn't civilized Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #81

Free speech suckered this nation into several wars and conflicts that didn't need to be fought. Kaleva Jul 2012 #15

Why not focus on measures that would truly stop such an event from reoccuring? Recovered Repug Jul 2012 #16

Depends on what makes you more uncomfortable. DetlefK Jul 2012 #43

No, absolutely not. I see nobody has answered YES, so far. Interesting. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #19

I know! Clames Jul 2012 #24

winnar! Tejas Jul 2012 #30

Pity that edit this post is no longer available to you. nt. Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #52

Gotta love all those guns they're packing and look at that dayglo body armor. Starboard Tack Jul 2012 #55

I understand they were armor under the gejohnston Jul 2012 #59

Yes, they do. ManiacJoe Jul 2012 #82

They sure look happier now. Clames Jul 2012 #60

No HockeyMom Jul 2012 #26

See post 28. Tejas Jul 2012 #31

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #32

... derby378 Jul 2012 #37

Are you saying the BoR sarisataka Jul 2012 #57

when you deny an individual you deny society. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #100

It is done with guns all the time for the good of society HockeyMom Jul 2012 #102

they gave up their right when they proved they could not act responsibly because it is Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #103

Felons? Mentally Ill by a Court Order? HockeyMom Jul 2012 #104

of course they are NOT innocent!!! are you confused? why are YOU denying innocent people Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #105

So says every despot ever to come into power. HALO141 Aug 2012 #111

2 sides to that coin, Pro-gun people get massacred too. Tejas Jul 2012 #28

They were child molesters... gregoire Jul 2012 #33

Child molesters in the same way the Aurora shooter was simply against the ACA? cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #36

Are you not old enough to remember Janet Reno... gregoire Jul 2012 #58

Pictures from Waco? Really DURHAM D Jul 2012 #38

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #85

absolutely not - ludicrous to think otherwise DrDan Jul 2012 #51

Yes. Atypical Liberal Jul 2012 #75

How many dead children are worth your 'right' to unfettered gun ownership? tblue Jul 2012 #76

aside from the the latest tragedy, gejohnston Jul 2012 #79

Another false dichotomy n/t HALO141 Jul 2012 #89

what a coldhearted way to look at things. Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #95

Should I rather ramble about "gun-stealing liberals" or "gun-fetishists"? DetlefK Jul 2012 #98

you should focus on People - Not Things. The person whose actions and MIShandling of the object Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #99

This is about people: We all face consequences for our behaviour. DetlefK Jul 2012 #106

the individual that wronged society should pay the debt and society should focus attention on those Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #107

But what if it's society that wronged individuals by furthering a dehumanizing world-view? DetlefK Jul 2012 #108

what if a frog had wings? --- Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2012 #109

Those who would give up xxenderwigginxx Aug 2012 #112

Easily works both ways. DetlefK Aug 2012 #113

Yes Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #114