Gun Control & RKBA

beevul

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1. You're moving the goalposts. The words you used were...

Tue Jan 3, 2012, 01:04 AM

Jan 2012

You're moving the goalposts. The words you used were...

"I'm only referring to those who have stated that they will go nowhere without being armed."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/11723715#post160

Edit the Op to use those words or admit dishonesty.

Because "never leave home" without a firearm, and "go nowhere without being armed" are two differnet things, and one of those is the claim that is IN QUESTION, and one IS NOT the claim that is in question.

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Does anyone here carry a firearm everywhere they go? [View all] Starboard Tack Jan 2012 OP

You're moving the goalposts. The words you used were... beevul Jan 2012 #1

can you explain this distinction for me please? iverglas Jan 2012 #58

Sure , no problem. beevul Jan 2012 #73

oh well iverglas Jan 2012 #74

I might have known the way you'd respond. beevul Jan 2012 #75

I went to a football game the other day, didn't carry then. rl6214 Jan 2012 #2

Very clearly, "go nowhere without being armed" does not apply to you. beevul Jan 2012 #3

Really? Then how come you said differently in another thread? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #67

snork iverglas Jan 2012 #79

I have also posted that I carry 99% of the time rl6214 Jan 2012 #87

OK you have now given three completely different answers Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #89

First I don't "tote" a gun, I carry a gun rl6214 Jan 2012 #90

You don't tote. You carry. I give up. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #93

And you know you use the term "tote" to be some sort of insult rl6214 Jan 2012 #94

Are you in complete denial? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #96

Are you angry? rl6214 Jan 2012 #97

No I'm not angry. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #100

tote has been hoyted...everyone knows this here. ileus Jan 2012 #101

What absolute nonsense. You made that up. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #102

Are you honestly saying that you do not read Hoyt's posts? ManiacJoe Jan 2012 #111

Of course I read Hoyt's posts Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #113

Hoyt has turned "tote" into a slur. ManiacJoe Jan 2012 #114

You're shitting me? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #115

Go back to DU2 and read it all for yourself. ManiacJoe Jan 2012 #118

And therefore the use of "tote"... jeepnstein Jan 2012 #145

What an asinine premise.. X_Digger Jan 2012 #4

See this thread. beevul Jan 2012 #6

Yeah, he can't be bothered to back up his bluster with actual posts (or even threads). X_Digger Jan 2012 #8

What a crock. Don't put words in my mouth Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #86

"those who have stated that they will go nowhere without being armed." X_Digger Jan 2012 #91

"Walk it back now.."? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #92

Yes, I see you trying to walk it back. X_Digger Jan 2012 #95

You don't give up, do you? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #98

No, you made your bed, feel free to lie in it. X_Digger Jan 2012 #99

No, I clearly made my point. Thanks to you and your buddy Beevul Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #103

Lol, no you haven't.. "stated that they will go nowhere without being armed." X_Digger Jan 2012 #104

I wasn't expecting anyone to carry illegally, but you knew that. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #105

Michael Jackson would be proud of that moonwalk. X_Digger Jan 2012 #106

Why don't you ask them? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #107

Lol, I quoted them above.. X_Digger Jan 2012 #108

I named them. Now you can ask them. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #112

Apparently you didn't actually read my reply #4. I answered as well. X_Digger Jan 2012 #119

You can now add Old Codger to the list. That makes 9. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #117

Not a single person has stated that they "will go nowhere without being armed." X_Digger Jan 2012 #133

My turn: I dont carry a gun, so "go nowhere without being armed" obviously doesn't apply to me. N/T beevul Jan 2012 #5

Looks like two fundamental laws of the internet are going head to head: petronius Jan 2012 #7

Change "never" to "almost never" to get a more accurate response. krispos42 Jan 2012 #9

The assertion that they're "compulsive toters" wouldn't really stick so good then. beevul Jan 2012 #10

What is your problem with the word compulsive? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #12

There's a connotation of mental illness with it, that's why. krispos42 Jan 2012 #14

It's a fine line. I think it progressed from habitual to compulsive, for me, to fasten a seatbelt. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #16

The seatbelt is a bad analogy. rrneck Jan 2012 #22

I agree, but it wasn't my analogy in the first place. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #31

Only prime numbers? krispos42 Jan 2012 #56

I know. The prime number thing is odd. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #61

Now I understand rl6214 Jan 2012 #88

My problem, is you seem to keep changing the definition, in an effort to get it to stick. beevul Jan 2012 #18

Done and done. Atypical Liberal Jan 2012 #30

Fair enough. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #11

Assuming I carried legally and had the properly blessed and sealed permit... krispos42 Jan 2012 #13

And you have my full respect. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #15

From my experiences with other pro-gun Gungeon regulars, they have similar opinions. krispos42 Jan 2012 #55

Ever have your car broken into? ellisonz Jan 2012 #17

That is what they make in-car gun lockboxes MicaelS Jan 2012 #28

Nope. krispos42 Jan 2012 #54

Yes, everywhere that it is legal to carry. N/T GreenStormCloud Jan 2012 #19

Thank you for your honesty Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #32

Easy answer. I refuse to be an easy victim of violent crime. GreenStormCloud Jan 2012 #60

Not always a firearm one-eyed fat man Jan 2012 #20

The answer to that question lies bewtween two extremes. rrneck Jan 2012 #21

There is a huge difference between compulsive behavior and mental illness Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #34

If someone suffers from OCD rrneck Jan 2012 #40

"You have been questioning the sanity of people who carry guns from day one." Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #43

It's real simple. rrneck Jan 2012 #57

Total carry time under 4 hours, my entire life. Remmah2 Jan 2012 #23

"Everywhere" is an absolute DWC Jan 2012 #24

Thank you for your honesty Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #63

Most of the time I do ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2012 #25

I pretty much have a firearm with me or in my car wherever I go. OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2012 #26

Are you saying that you would carry to a bar/party/stadium if it were legal? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #37

If they want to (and aren't drinking), why not? friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #45

I think you answered your own question Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #49

It is legal to carry to a bar/party in ohio and somtimes I do. If I plan on drinking.. I don't. OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2012 #64

Yes michreject Jan 2012 #27

Can you explain your rationale for doing that? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #38

Because I can michreject Jan 2012 #48

That's your entire rationale for wearing a gun? Because you can? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #50

If I get an urge to do something, and it's not illegal, I do it michreject Jan 2012 #65

So you are compelled by your urges, provided they are legal? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #66

Isn't everybody, whom acts of their own free will, compelled by their urges? OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2012 #76

Yes indeed. Thank you Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #77

"Compulsive toter", meet "compulsive gambling" beevul Jan 2012 #78

Excellent points you make. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #84

I would think the same way. Glassunion Jan 2012 #81

I used the word compulsive in it's literal sense. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #85

"because I can" iverglas Jan 2012 #80

I obviously do not carry when I enter a restricted area... spin Jan 2012 #29

Great answer. Thanks Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #35

Same back to you and yours. (n/t) spin Jan 2012 #41

Question for you. What is a place of nuisance? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #51

I only carry legally ileus Jan 2012 #33

Thanks for responding. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #36

I'd say about 80 or 85% of the time. ileus Jan 2012 #53

I carry most of the time. Tomorrow I won't as I am to escort my MOM to a oneshooter Jan 2012 #39

Is there anywhere you wouldn't carry, if it were legal? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #44

If it were legal to do so We_Have_A_Problem Jan 2012 #46

Can't think of any right offhand. n/t oneshooter Jan 2012 #47

Thanks, and I hope your Mom does well. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #52

We will know more tomorrow. Have a happy New Year, ya'll. n/t oneshooter Jan 2012 #59

Inasmuch as I live in a may issue (read *corrupt issue*) state I never carry. Simo 1939_1940 Jan 2012 #42

I carry whenever I'm not at work or drinking. armueller2001 Jan 2012 #62

I don't deal in absolutes. Glassunion Jan 2012 #68

You will not stop me! discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #70

I live in New Jersey. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #69

Are you saying you would if NJ allowed it? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #71

I would say probably. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2012 #72

I don't always carry one out to the mailbox. Fourier Jan 2012 #82

Are you saying you carry everywhere else besides your mailbox? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #83

Always Old Codger Jan 2012 #109

What's it like to live fightthegoodfightnow Jan 2012 #110

I wouldn't know, having never carried a handgun outside of a range. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #116

I don't have a clue. I don't carry, ever. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #122

My dead neighbor is a fear monger. E6-B Jan 2012 #126

Why do you say a murder victim is a fear monger? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #127

Fear mongering. E6-B Jan 2012 #142

So you decided to join that cycle of fear? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #143

Drug dealers choose to find my house E6-B Jan 2012 #144

Not everywhere, no. benEzra Jan 2012 #120

I'm not big on legislating either way. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #121

I agree. (n/t) benEzra Jan 2012 #123

Where don't you carry? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #128

Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #124

Only at night 100% of the time. E6-B Jan 2012 #125

i will be carrying into a high school later today at a basketball game. YllwFvr Jan 2012 #129

Good for you. I assume you are a cop. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #132

mostly YllwFvr Jan 2012 #134

What places constitute the other 10%? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #135

family or a few friends YllwFvr Jan 2012 #138

Glad to hear you're a reasonable man, respecting others wishes. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #139

No. Callisto32 Jan 2012 #130

Is that the only place you don't carry? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #131

How about high risk gender? TPaine7 Jan 2012 #136

As long as cops carry, everybody should be allowed to carry if they are mentally competent. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #137

Wow, I largely agree. TPaine7 Jan 2012 #140

There you go. You see, we're not that far apart. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #141

This Starboard Tack makes more sense than the old one... Callisto32 Jan 2012 #147

I know it's been a while, but...here's a reply. Callisto32 Jan 2012 #146