Gun Control & RKBA

Jenoch

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48. And yet you

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:29 PM

Aug 2012

are painting all gun owners with the same brush. Do you REALLY believe that position to be true of ALL gun owners?

Most gun owners are racist/bigots? Wow. There is no Venn diagram for what you suggest. Do you have a link to a study or factual evidence to support your outlandish claims?

With that statement you should lose credibility with even the most ardent anti-gunners.

The 'gun nuts' in Georgia might more closely resemble what you say you have observed, but that certainly does not make it true of the entire United States. That is just completely illogical and unproven. You certainly are entitled to you wacky, unsubstantiated opinions however.

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ILLINOIS GOV. PROPOSES STATE ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN [View all] xchrom Jul 2012 OP

Illinois -- still taking the tax revenue from ArmaLite Arms the creators of the AR-15. aikoaiko Jul 2012 #1

Are any of these purveyors of fine semi-automatic firearms still located in IL? -..__... Jul 2012 #3

IIRC Les Baer packed it up and crossed the river to Iowa DonP Jul 2012 #6

Well that's just brilliant Reasonable_Argument Jul 2012 #2

Not the smartest of moves by Gov. Quinn... truebrit71 Jul 2012 #4

Down staters have had it with the calmeco702 Jul 2012 #5

This Illinois government? PavePusher Jul 2012 #7

Destroying freedom....how progressive. ileus Jul 2012 #8

In the meantime he's fucking the unions over royally DonP Jul 2012 #9

All caps. rrneck Jul 2012 #10

yes. if you follow the link -- AP does that so -- DOG CROSSES STREET would be all caps. nt xchrom Jul 2012 #12

Ah. I stand corrected. Sorry. nt rrneck Jul 2012 #13

Gutsy and smart man. I bet that'll have the militia types in the state all up in arms. Hoyt Jul 2012 #11

Do you wait for stories like this? Missycim Aug 2012 #15

It's best to ignore him. Pacafishmate Aug 2012 #16

Been right here a whole lot longer than you, I think. Hoyt Aug 2012 #20

That doesn't change your motivation. Pacafishmate Aug 2012 #22

You have been a member longer then I but Missycim Aug 2012 #34

"Predictable" -- so is every member of gun culture. Hoyt Aug 2012 #37

Your objections and "rationales" have remained HALO141 Aug 2012 #41

My post are consistent because gun lovers are consistently wrong about guns in society. Hoyt Aug 2012 #44

Just your opinion. You have a right to it. HALO141 Aug 2012 #50

Hoyt was actually spot on this time. ellisonz Aug 2012 #33

I know a fair number of individuals in Florida who own "black rifles" ... spin Aug 2012 #19

I can imagine what they are like and what they are preparing to "defend" themsleves from. Hoyt Aug 2012 #21

Nor do you have to be a "militia/KKK.etc, type" to own one ... spin Aug 2012 #23

Again, you may be the most wonderful gun owner in America. But that is not my experience with most. Hoyt Aug 2012 #24

Your experience Jenoch Aug 2012 #25

Zimmerman and Stawicki had a permit too, to name a few. Hoyt Aug 2012 #29

there is no evidence gejohnston Aug 2012 #32

He stalked and shot an unarmed teenager for being Black -- proof enough for me. Why not you? Hoyt Aug 2012 #46

because that is not what the evidence shows gejohnston Aug 2012 #51

Quite the opposite. HALO141 Aug 2012 #42

And yet you Jenoch Aug 2012 #48

There he goes, running away with those goalposts again........... Ashgrey77 Aug 2012 #62

I wonder what percentage of CCW holders were hall monitors in school. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #35

Admittedly I know mostly regular target shooters ... spin Aug 2012 #30

We agree, most gun types are conservatives. You won't admit it, but that also means most are bigots. Hoyt Aug 2012 #49

Cool false dilemma, bro. rDigital Aug 2012 #63

You need new material xxenderwigginxx Aug 2012 #65

No, you need to take a dimmer view of conservatives and linked gun culture. Hoyt Aug 2012 #66

I realize that in our nation at this time ... spin Aug 2012 #67

So, what are you willing to give up regarding your guns? Hoyt Aug 2012 #68

Firstly, what are *you* willing to give up? In the spirit of compromise, of course... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2012 #78

Don't think there is much else you need to get access to any gun you need to feel good. NRA and Hoyt Aug 2012 #80

Regarding my small collection of firearms ... spin Aug 2012 #81

So, there's a shooting in my home state (Colorado), Ashgrey77 Jul 2012 #14

Quinn claims the Illinois sailor was killed by an "assault weapon"? DonP Aug 2012 #17

Ummm, rifles accounted for less than 0.7% of Illinois murders in in 2010. benEzra Aug 2012 #18

Excellent!!!!!!!!!!! gopiscrap Aug 2012 #26

Why do you say that? 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #28

Do you want it to mirror eagle308us Aug 2012 #31

Chicago has some of the strictest gun regulations in the country so logically they should be . . . 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #27

NRA Talking Point #12 bongbong Aug 2012 #54

So Chicago gejohnston Aug 2012 #55

Zoom! bongbong Aug 2012 #58

another example of gejohnston Aug 2012 #59

"Laws don't stop criminals, so why have laws?" 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #56

Laughs bongbong Aug 2012 #57

Do you know what a strawman argument is? 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #60

Strawman bongbong Aug 2012 #69

And you do it again 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #70

Just trying to help you bongbong Aug 2012 #73

Your post was nonsensical 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #74

abhor bongbong Aug 2012 #75

You're boring 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #76

Education is boring bongbong Aug 2012 #79

So is your relentless goading of everyone who doesn't agree with you. HALO141 Aug 2012 #93

Cool straw man, bro. rDigital Aug 2012 #64

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That's all he has 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #77

Baby steps, but in the right direction. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #36

right direction to what? gejohnston Aug 2012 #38

That's why they are baby steps Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #39

you didn't read the linked article did you? gejohnston Aug 2012 #40

Read the article (as hand waves away the facts)? cleanhippie Aug 2012 #71

The last AWB failed to reduce violence at all 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #43

I don't. That's why I said baby steps. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #45

So you realize it's worthless 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #47

I support him for having the balls to stand up to a mob mentality. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #82

Funny how democracy sounds scary when you just call it "mob mentality" 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #86

Fighting for gay rights is standing up to the mob mentality Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #90

Not once a majority support it 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #91

The resultant change would be a change of politicians. GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #53

Unfortunately, you may well be right. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #83

Integrity? Equate Aug 2012 #87

Integrity? Yeah, that's why he helped short Union pensions by $83 Billion DonP Aug 2012 #88

I don't know the man apart from his stance on this, which shows integrity Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #89

integrity if he truly believes it gejohnston Aug 2012 #92

And some would say HALO141 Aug 2012 #61

Absolutely! It's up to us what kind of change we want. Starboard Tack Aug 2012 #84

neither do third world countries gejohnston Aug 2012 #85

Do it ILL! Lint Head Aug 2012 #52