Guns in Public, and Out of Sight

[Atypical Liberal]

180. I think you are stretching.

"That's why police officers carry firearms."
In this country. Where I grew up and worked as one they don't carry firearms and it works very well for them. Just to let you know there is always another side to the coin.

The bottom line is when police officers are threatened with real violence they almost always show up with guns.


Did you watch the video of the guy taking the AK47 away from the would be robber and laughing as he did it. Do you think that guy was a victim or sees himself as a victim? I don't.

The man was a victim of armed robbery. The fact that he was able to engage in a successful attempt to physically overpower his attacker does not change that fact.

When one arms oneself to walk out of the house one has already decided to be a potential victim. I find that very sad.

When I drive out of my driveway with a spare tire, this does not mean I have already decided to have a flat tire. It simply means that I want to be prepared if I do have a flat tire.

Carrying a gun means that I have decided to be able to fight back if I ever am a victim of violent crime.

I never found using Judo techniques as physical resistance. They are the opposite. I think you have a very poor understanding of how Judo works. Efficiency is about accomplishing a task with the least effort. Shooting someone requires an enormous effort.

This is a huge stretch. You're just simply wrong. If you are using your body to manipulate someone else's body in a combat situation, then that is hand to hand combat. That is physical resistance - you are physically using your body to manipulate your attacker's body to resist their attack. There is simply no comparison between the amount of physical effort (and that is what we are talking about here when we talk about physical contests of strength) to engage in hand to hand combat versus that required to fire a handgun .

Again, I have a very good understanding of how Judo works, and Hapkido in particular. This does not change the fact that any martial art is hand to hand combat, and requires the user to be physically capable of using their body to deflect the attack of their attacker's body. While there are indeed some cute moves that people can use to incapacitate an attacker with almost trivial body movements, as my instructor taught us most fights end up on the ground in a desperate, violent physical encounter. Physical strength and training are huge[i/] parts of winning nearly any violent encounter.